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		<title>IDOLATRY!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Flee from idolatry!&#8221; 1 Corinthians 10:14 The text which heads this page may seem at first sight to be hardly needed in England. In an age of education and intelligence like this, we might almost imagine it is waste of time to tell an Englishman to &#8220;flee from idolatry.&#8221; I am bold to say that [...]]]></description>
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<p align="justify">The text which heads this page may seem at first sight to be hardly needed in England. In an age of education and intelligence like this, we might almost imagine it is waste of time to tell an Englishman to<em> &#8220;flee from idolatry.&#8221;</em> I am bold to say that this is a great mistake. I believe that we have come to a time when the subject of idolatry demands a thorough and searching investigation. I believe that idolatry is <em>near </em>us, and <em>about </em>us, and in the <em>midst </em>of us — to a very fearful extent.</p>
<p align="justify">The Second Commandment, in one word, is in peril.<em> The plague has begun!</em> Without further preface, I propose in this paper to consider the four following points:</p>
<p align="justify">I. The <strong>definition </strong>of idolatry. <em>What is it? </em></p>
<p align="justify">II. The <strong>cause </strong>of idolatry.<em> Whence comes it? </em></p>
<p align="justify">III. The <strong>form </strong>idolatry assumes in the visible Church of Christ. <em>Where is it? </em></p>
<p align="justify">IV. The ultimate <strong>abolition </strong>of idolatry. <em>What will end it?</em></p>
<p align="justify">I feel that the subject is encompassed with many difficulties. Our lot is cast in an age when <em>truth </em>is constantly in danger of being sacrificed to toleration, charity, and false. Nevertheless, I cannot forget, as a clergyman, that the Church of England is a Church which has &#8220;given no uncertain sound&#8221; on the subject of idolatry; and, unless I am greatly mistaken, truth about idolatry is, in the highest sense — truth for our times!</p>
<p align="justify">I. Let me, then, first of all, supply a DEFINITION of idolatry.</p>
<p align="justify">Let me show <em>what it is. </em></p>
<p align="justify">It is of the utmost importance that we should understand this. Unless I make this clear, I can do nothing with the subject. <em>Vagueness </em>and <em>indistinctness </em>prevail upon this point, as upon almost every other point in religion. The Christian who would not be continually running aground in his spiritual voyage, must have his ship well buoyed, and his mind well stored with clear definitions.</p>
<p align="justify">I say, then, that &#8220;idolatry is a worship in which the honor due to God, and to Him alone — is given to some of His creatures, or to some invention of His creatures.&#8221; It may <em>vary </em>exceedingly. It may assume exceedingly <em>different forms</em>, according to the ignorance or the knowledge, the civilization or the barbarism — of those who offer it. It may be grossly absurd and ludicrous — or it may closely border on truth, and admit of being most speciously defended. But whether in the adoration of the idol of <em>Juggernaut</em>, or in the adoration of the <em>Host </em>in St. Peter&#8217;s at Rome, the <em>principle of idolatry </em>is in reality the same. In either case, the honor due to God is turned aside from Him, and bestowed on that which is not God. And whenever this is done, whether in <em>heathen </em>temples or in <em>professedly Christian </em>churches — there is an act of idolatry.</p>
<p align="justify">It is not necessary for a man <em>formally </em>to deny God and Christ, in order to be an idolator. Far from it. Professed reverence for the God of the Bible, and actual idolatry, are perfectly compatible! They have often gone side by side — and they still do so!</p>
<p align="justify">The children of Israel never thought of <em>renouncing </em>God when they persuaded Aaron to make the <em>golden calf</em>. &#8220;These are your gods,&#8221; they said (your Elohim), &#8220;which brought you up out of the land of Egypt.&#8221; And the feast in honor of the calf was kept as &#8220;a feast unto the Lord&#8221; (Jehovah). (Exodus 32:4, 5.)</p>
<p align="justify">Jeroboam, again, never pretended to ask the ten tribes to cast off their allegiance to the God of David and Solomon. When he set up the calves of gold in Dan and Bethel, he only said, &#8220;It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem: behold your gods, O Israel (your Elohim), which brought you up out of the land of Egypt.&#8221; (1 Kings 12:28.)</p>
<p align="justify">In both instances, we should observe, the idol was not set up as a <em>rival </em>to God — but under the <em>pretence </em>of being a help — a stepping-stone to His service. But, in both instances, a great sin was committed. The honor due to God — was given to a visible representation of Him. The majesty of Jehovah was offended. The second commandment was broken. There was, in the eyes of God, a flagrant act of idolatry.</p>
<p align="justify">Let us mark this well. It is high time to dismiss from our minds those loose ideas about idolatry, which are common in this day. We must not think, as many do, that there are only two kinds of idolatry — the <em>spiritual </em>idolatry of the man who loves his <em>job</em>, or <em>family</em>, or <em>lusts</em>, or <em>money </em>more than God; and the open, gross idolatry of the man who bows down to an image of wood, or metal, or stone, because he knows no better. We may rest assured that idolatry is a sin which occupies a far wider field than this. It is not merely a thing in India, that we may hear of, and pity at missionary meetings; nor yet is it a thing confined to our own hearts, that we may confess before the Mercy-seat upon our knees. It is a <em>pestilence </em>that walks in the Church of Christ to a much greater extent than many suppose. It is an <em>evil </em>that, like the <em>man of sin</em>, &#8220;sits in the very temple of God.&#8221; (2 Thessalonians 2:4.)</p>
<p align="justify">Idolatry is a sin that we all need to watch and pray against continually. It creeps into our religious worship insensibly, and is upon us before we are aware. Those are tremendous words which Isaiah spoke to the formal Jew — not to the worshiper of Baal, remember — but to the man who actually came to the temple! (Isaiah 67:3): &#8220;But whoever sacrifices a bull is like one who kills a man, and whoever offers a lamb, like one who breaks a dog&#8217;s neck; whoever makes a grain offering is like one who presents pig&#8217;s blood, and whoever burns memorial incense, like one who worships an idol!&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">Idolatry is that sin which God has especially denounced in His Word. One commandment out of ten is devoted to the prohibition of it. Not one of all the ten contains such a solemn declaration of God&#8217;s <em>character</em>, and of His <em>judgments </em>against the disobedient: &#8220;I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of those who <em>hate </em>Me,&#8221; (Exod. 20:5.) Not one, perhaps, of all the ten is so emphatically repeated and amplified, and especially in the fourth chapter of the book of Deuteronomy.</p>
<p align="justify">Idolatry is the sin, of all others, to which the Jews seem to have been most inclined before the destruction of Solomon&#8217;s temple. What is the history of Israel under their judges and kings, but a melancholy record of repeated falling away into idolatry? Again and again we read of &#8220;high places&#8221; and false gods. Again and again we read of <em>captivities </em>and <em>chastisements </em>on account of idolatry. Again and again we read of a <em>return </em>to the old sin. It seems as if the love of idols among the Jews was naturally bone of their bone and flesh of their flesh.</p>
<p align="justify">The <em>besetting sin of the Old Testament Church</em>, in one word, was idolatry! In the face of the most elaborate ceremonial ordinances that God ever gave to His people, Israel was incessantly turning aside after idols, and worshiping the work of men&#8217;s hands.</p>
<p align="justify">This is the sin, of all others, which has brought down the heaviest judgments on the <em>visible Church</em>. It brought on <em>Israel </em>the armies of Egypt, Assyria, and Babylon. It scattered the ten tribes, burned up Jerusalem, and carried Judah and Benjamin into captivity! It brought on the Eastern Churches, in later days, the overwhelming flood of the Saracenic invasion, and turned many a spiritual garden into a wilderness. The <em>desolation </em>which reigns where Cyprian and Augustine once preached, the <em>living death </em>in which the Churches of Asia Minor and Syria are buried — are all attributable to this sin of idolatry. All testify to the same great truth which the Lord proclaims in Isaiah: &#8220;I not give My glory will to another!&#8221; (Isaiah 42:8.)</p>
<p align="justify">Let us gather up these things in our minds, and ponder them well. Idolatry is a subject which, in every Church of Christ that would keep herself pure — should be thoroughly examined, understood, and known. It is not for nothing that Paul lays down the stern command, <em>&#8220;Flee from idolatry!&#8221;<br />
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<p align="justify">II. Let me show, in the second place, the CAUSE to which idolatry may be traced.</p>
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<p align="justify"><em>Whence comes it? </em></p>
<p align="justify">To the man who takes an extravagant and exalted view of human intellect and reason — idolatry may seem absurd. He imagines it too irrational for any but weak minds to be endangered by it. To a mere superficial thinker about Christianity, the peril of idolatry may seem very small. Whatever commandments are broken, such a man will tell us, professing Christians are not very likely to transgress the <em>second</em>.</p>
<p align="justify">Now, both of these people manifest a woeful ignorance of human nature. They do not see that there are <em>secret roots of idolatry </em>within us all. The prevalence of idolatry in all ages among the heathen, must necessarily puzzle the one — the warnings of Protestant ministers against idolatry in the Church, must necessarily appear uncalled for to the other. Both are alike blind to its <em>cause</em>.</p>
<p align="justify">The cause of all idolatry is the <em>natural corruption of man&#8217;s heart</em>. That great family disease, with which all the children of Adam are infected from their birth — shows itself in idolatry, as it does in a thousand other ways. Out of the same fountain from which &#8220;proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit,&#8221; and the like (Mark 7:21, 22) — out of that same fountain arise false views of God, and false views of the worship due to Him. And therefore, when the Apostle Paul tells the Galatians (Galatians 5:20) what are the &#8220;works of the flesh,&#8221; he places prominently among them &#8220;idolatry.&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">A religion of some kind man will have. God has not left Himself without a <em>witness </em>in us all, as fallen as we are. Like old inscriptions hidden under mounds of rubbish — even so there is a <em>dim something </em>engraved at the bottom of man&#8217;s heart, however faint and half-erased — a <em>something </em>which makes him feel he must have a <em>religion </em>and a <em>worship </em>of some kind. The proof of this is to be found in the history of voyages and travels in every part of the globe. The exceptions to the rule are so few, if indeed there are any — that they only confirm its truth. Man&#8217;s worship in some dark corner of the earth, may rise no higher than a vague fear of an evil spirit, and a desire to propitiate him — but a worship of some kind, man will have.</p>
<p align="justify">But then comes in the effect of the fall. Ignorance of God, carnal and low conceptions of His nature and attributes, earthly and sensual notions of the service which is acceptable to Him — all characterize the <em>religion of the natural man</em>. There is a craving in his mind after something he can <em>see</em>, and <em>feel</em>, and <em>touch </em>in his Divinity. He would gladly bring his God down to his own crawling level. He would make his religion a thing of <em>sense </em>and <em>sight</em>. He has no idea of the religion of heart, and faith, and spirit.</p>
<p align="justify">In short, just as he is willing to live a fallen and degraded life on God&#8217;s earth — so he has no objection to <em>worship after a fashion</em> — but it is always with a fallen worship. In one word, <em>idolatry is a natural product of man&#8217;s heart. </em>It is a <em>weed </em>which, like the uncultivated earth — the heart is always ready to bring forth. And now does it surprise us, when we read of the constantly recurring idolatries of the Old Testament Church — of Peor, and Baal, and Moloch, and Chemosh, and Ashtareth — of <em>high places </em>and <em>hill altars</em>, and <em>groves </em>and <em>images</em> — and this in the full light of the Mosaic Law? Let us cease to be surprised. It can be accounted for. There is a cause.</p>
<p align="justify">Does it surprise us when we read in history how idolatry crept in by degrees into the Church of Christ — how <em>little by little </em>it thrust out Gospel truth, until, in Canterbury, men offered more at the shrine of Virgin Mary — than at that of Christ? Let us cease to be surprised. It is all intelligible. There is a cause.</p>
<p align="justify">Does it surprise us when we hear of men going over from Protestant Churches to the Church of Rome, in the present day? Do we think it unaccountable, and feel as if <em>we </em>ourselves could never forsake a pure form of worship — for one like that of the Pope? Let us cease to be surprised. There is a solution for the problem. There is a cause. That <em>cause </em>is nothing else but the <em>deep corruption of man&#8217;s heart</em>.</p>
<p align="justify">There is a <em>natural proneness and tendency in us all — </em>to give God a sensual, carnal worship, and not that which is commanded in His Word. We are ever ready, by reason of our sloth and unbelief, to devise visible <em>helps </em>and <em>stepping-stones </em>in our approaches to Him — and ultimately to give these <em>inventions of our own </em>the honor due to Him.</p>
<p align="justify">In fact, idolatry is all natural, downhill, and easy — like the <em>broad </em>way. Spiritual worship is all grace — all uphill, and all against the grain. Any worship whatever is more pleasing to the natural heart, than worshiping God in the way which our Lord Christ describes, &#8220;in spirit and in truth.&#8221; (John 4:23.)</p>
<p align="justify">I, for one, am not surprised at the quantity of idolatry existing, both in the world and in the visible Church. I believe it perfectly possible that we may yet live to see far more of it than some have ever dreamed of. It would never surprise me if some mighty <em>Antichrist </em>were to arise before the end — mighty in intellect, mighty in talents for government, yes, and mighty, perhaps, in miraculous gifts too. It would never surprise me to see such an one as him setting up himself in opposition to Christ, and forming an infidel conspiracy and combination against the Gospel. I believe that many would rejoice to do him honor, who now glory in saying, &#8220;We will not have this Christ to reign over us!&#8221; I believe that many would make a <em>god </em>of him, and reverence him as an incarnation of truth, and concentrate their idea of hero-worship on his person. I advance it as a possibility, and no more.</p>
<p align="justify">But of this at least I am certain — that no man is less safe from danger of idolatry, than the man who now sneers at every form of religion; and that from <em>infidelity </em>to <em>credulity</em> — from <em>atheism </em>to the grossest <em>idolatry</em> — there is but a single step!</p>
<p align="justify">Let us not think, at all events, that idolatry is an old-fashioned sin, into which we are never likely to fall. &#8220;Let him that thinks he stands, take heed lest he fall.&#8221; <em>We shall do well to look into our own hearts — the seeds of idolatry are all there! </em>We should remember the words of Paul: &#8220;Flee from idolatry!&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">III. Let me show, in the third place, the FORMS which idolatry has assumed, and does assume, in the visible Church.</p>
<p align="justify"><em>Where is it? </em></p>
<p align="justify">I believe there never was a more baseless fabric, than the theory which obtains favor with many — that the promises of perpetuity and preservation from apostasy, belong to the visible Church of Christ. It is a theory supported neither by Scripture nor by facts. The Church against which &#8220;the gates of Hell shall never prevail,&#8221; is not the <em>visible </em>Church — but the whole body of the elect, the company of true believers out of every nation and people.</p>
<p align="justify">The greater part of the <em>visible </em>Church has frequently maintained gross heresies. The particular branches of it are never secure against <em>deadly error</em> — both of faith and practice. A departure from the faith — a falling away — a leaving of first love in any branch of the visible Church, need never surprise a careful reader of the New Testament. That idolatry would arise, seems to have been the expectation of the Apostles, even before the canon of the New Testament was closed. It is remarkable to observe how Paul dwells on this subject in his Epistle to the Corinthians. If any Corinthian called a brother was an idolater, with such a one, the members of the Church &#8220;were not to eat.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 5:11.) &#8220;Neither be idolaters, as were some of our fathers.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 10:7.) He says again, in the text which heads this paper, &#8220;My dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 10:14.) When he writes to the Colossians, he warns them against &#8220;worshiping of angels.&#8221; (Colossians 2:18.) And John closes his first Epistle with the solemn injunction, &#8220;Little children, <em>keep yourselves from idols</em>.&#8221; (1 John 5:21.)</p>
<p align="justify">It is impossible not to feel that all these passages imply <em>an expectation that idolatry would arise</em>, and that soon, among professing Christians. The famous prophecy in the fourth chapter of the first Epistle to Timothy contains a passage which is even more directly to the point: &#8220;The Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils!&#8221; (1 Timothy 4:1.)</p>
<p align="justify">The last passage I will call attention to, is the conclusion of the ninth chapter of Revelation. We there read, at the twentieth verse: &#8220;But the people who did not die in these plagues still refused to repent of their evil deeds and turn to God. They continued to worship demons and idols made of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood—idols that can neither see nor hear nor walk!&#8221; Now, I am not going to offer any comment on the chapter in which this verse occurs. I know well there is a difference of opinion as to the true interpretation of the plagues predicted in it. I only venture to assert that it is the highest probability these plagues are to fall upon the visible Church of Christ; and the highest improbability that John was here prophesying about the heathen, who never heard the Gospel. And this once conceded, the fact that idolatry is a predicted sin of the visible Church, does seem most conclusively and forever established.</p>
<p align="justify">And now, if we turn from the Bible to facts of history — what do we see? I reply unhesitatingly, that there is unmistakable proof that Scripture warnings and predictions were not spoken without cause, and that idolatry has actually <em>arisen </em>in the visible Church of Christ, and does <em>still </em>exist. The rise and progress of the evil in former days, we shall find well summed up in the Homily of the Church of England on &#8220;The Peril of Idolatry.&#8221; To that Homily I beg to refer all Churchmen, reminding them once for all, that in the judgment of the Thirty-nine Articles, the Book of Homilies &#8220;contains a godly and wholesome doctrine, and necessary for these times.&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">There we read, how, even in the <em>fourth century</em>, Jerome complains &#8220;that the errors of idols have come in, and passed to the Christians from the Gentiles!&#8221; And Eusebius says, &#8220;We do see that <em>images </em>of Peter and Paul, and of our Savior Himself, are made!&#8221; There we may read how &#8220;Pontius Paulinus, Bishop of Nola, in the fifth century, caused the walls of the temples to be painted with stories taken out of the Old Testament; that the people beholding and considering these pictures, might the better abstain from too much surfeiting and riot. But from learning by painted stories, it came by little and little to idolatry.&#8221; There we may read how Gregory the First, Bishop of <em>Rome</em>, in the beginning of the seventh century, allowed <em>images </em>in churches. There we may read how Irene, mother of Constantine the Sixth, in the eighth century, assembled a Council at Nicaea, and procured a decree that &#8220;<em>images </em>should be put up in all the churches of Greece, and that honor and worship should be given to the said images.&#8221; And there we may read the conclusion with which the Homily winds up its historical summary, &#8220;that laity and clergy, learned and unlearned, all ages, sorts — have been at once drowned in abominable <em>idolatry</em>, of all other vices most detested of God, and most damnable to man, and that for the space of 800 years and more!&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">This is a mournful account — but it is only too true. There can be little doubt the evil began even before the time just mentioned by the Homily writers. No man, I think, need wonder at the <em>rise of idolatry </em>in the Primitive Church, who calmly considers the excessive reverence which it paid, from the very first, to the <em>visible </em>parts of religion. I believe that no impartial man can read the language used by nearly all the Fathers about the Church, the bishops, the ministry, baptism, the Lord&#8217;s Supper, the martyrs, the dead saints generally — no man can read it without being struck with the wide difference between their language and the language of Scripture on such subjects. You seem at once to be in a new atmosphere. You feel that you are no longer treading on holy ground. You find that things which in the Bible are evidently of <em>second-rate </em>importance — are here made of <em>first-rate </em>importance. You find the things of <em>sense </em>and <em>sight — </em>exalted to a position in which Paul, and Peter, and James, and John, speaking by the Holy Spirit — never for a moment placed them. It is not merely the weakness of uninspired writings that you have to complain of; it is something worse — it is a <em>new system of religion</em>!</p>
<p align="justify">And what is the explanation of all this? It is, in one word, that you have got into a region where the <em>malaria of idolatry </em>has begun to arise. You perceive the <em>first workings </em>of the mystery of iniquity. You detect the <em>buds </em>of that huge system of idolatry which, as the Homily describes, was afterwards formally acknowledged, and ultimately blossomed so luxuriantly in every part of Christendom.</p>
<p align="justify">But let us now turn from the <em>past </em>to the <em>present</em>. Let us examine the question which most concerns ourselves. Let us consider in what form idolatry presents itself to us as a sin of the visible Church of Christ in <em>our own time</em>. I find no difficulty in answering this question. I feel no hesitation in affirming that <em>idolatry </em>never yet assumed a more glaring form, than it does in the Church of Rome at this present day. And here I come to a subject on which it is hard to speak, because of the times we live in. But the <em>whole truth </em>ought to be spoken by ministers of Christ, without respect of times and prejudices. And I could not lie down in peace, after writing on idolatry, if I did not declare my solemn conviction that <em>idolatry is one of the crying sins of which the Church of Rome is guilty! </em></p>
<p align="justify">I say this in all sadness. I say it, acknowledging fully that we have our faults in the Protestant Church; and practically, perhaps, in some quarters, not a little idolatry. But from <em>formal, recognized, systematic idolatry</em> — I believe we are almost entirely free. While, as for the Church of Rome, if there is not in her worship an enormous quantity of systematic, organized idolatry — I frankly confess I do not know what idolatry is!</p>
<p align="justify">(a) To my mind, it is idolatry to have <em>images </em>and <em>pictures </em>of saints in churches, and to give them a <em>reverence </em>for which there is no warrant or precedent in Scripture. And if this is so — I say that there is idolatry in the Church of Rome!</p>
<p align="justify">(b) To my mind, it is idolatry to <em>invoke </em>the <em>Virgin Mary </em>and the <em>saints </em>in glory, and to address them in language never addressed in Scripture except to the Holy Trinity. And if this is so — I say that there is idolatry in the Church of Rome!</p>
<p align="justify">(c) To my mind, it is idolatry to<em> bow down to <strong>relics</strong></em> — mere material things, and attribute to them a power and sanctity far exceeding that attached to the ark or altar of the Old Testament dispensation; and a power and sanctity, too, for which there is not a jot of foundation in the Word of God. And if this is so with the <em>holy coat </em>of Treves, and the wonderfully <em>multiplied wood </em>of the true cross, and a thousand other so-called <em>relics </em>in my mind&#8217;s eye — I say that there is idolatry in the Church of Rome!</p>
<p align="justify">(d) To my mind, it is idolatry to worship that which man&#8217;s hands have made — to call it God, and adore it when lifted up before our eyes. And if this be so, with the notorious doctrine of <em>transubstantiation</em>, and the elevation of the <em>Host </em>in my recollection — I say that there is idolatry in the Church of Rome!</p>
<p align="justify">(e) To my mind, it is idolatry to make ordained men <em>mediators </em>between ourselves and God, robbing, as it were, our Lord Christ of His office, and giving them an honor which even Apostles and angels in Scripture flatly repudiate. And if this be so, with the honor paid to <em>Popes </em>and <em>Priests </em>before my eyes — I say that there is idolatry in the Church of Rome!</p>
<p align="justify">I know well that language like this jars the minds of many. Men love to shut their eyes against evils which it is <em>disagreeable </em>to allow. They will not <em>see </em>things which involve <em>unpleasant consequences</em>. That the Church of Rome is an erring Church, they will acknowledge. That she is idolatrous, they will deny. They tell us that the reverence which the Romanish Church gives to saints and images, does not amount to idolatry. They inform us that there are distinctions between the worship of &#8220;latria&#8221; and &#8220;dulia;&#8221; between a mediation of redemption, and a mediation of intercession, which clear her of the charge. My answer is, that the Bible knows nothing of such distinctions; and that, in the actual practice of the great bulk of Roman Catholics, they have no existence at all.</p>
<p align="justify">They tell us, that it is a mistake to suppose that Roman Catholics really worship the images and pictures, before which they perform acts of adoration; that they only use them as <em>helps to devotion</em>, and in reality look far beyond them. My answer is, that many a heathen could say just as much for his idolatry; that it is notorious, in former days, that they did say so.</p>
<p align="justify">But the apology does not avail. The terms of the second commandment are too stringent. It prohibits <em>bowing down</em>, as well as <em>worshiping</em>. And the very concern which the Church of Rome has often displayed to <em>exclude that second commandment from her catechisms</em>, is of itself a great fact which speaks volumes to a candid observer! They tell us that we have no evidence for the assertions we make on this subject; that we found our charges on the <em>abuses </em>which prevail among the ignorant members of the Romish communion; and that it is absurd to say that a Church containing so many wise and learned men, is guilty of idolatry.</p>
<p align="justify">My answer is, that the devotional books in common use among Roman Catholics, supply us with unmistakable evidence. Let any one examine that notorious book, &#8220;The Garden of the Soul,&#8221; if he doubts my assertion, and read the language there addressed to the Virgin Mary. Let him remember that this language is addressed to a woman who, though highly favored, and the mother of our Lord — was yet one of our fellow-sinners — to a woman who actually confesses her need of a Savior for herself. She says, &#8220;My spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.&#8221; (Luke 1:47.) Let him examine this language in the light of the New Testament, and then let him tell us fairly whether the charge of idolatry is not fully made out.</p>
<p align="justify">But I answer, beside this, that we need no better evidence than that which is supplied in the city of Rome itself. What do men and women do under the light of the Pope&#8217;s own countenance? What is the religion that prevails around <em>St. Peter&#8217;s</em> and under the walls of the Vatican? What is Romanism at <em>Rome</em>, unfettered, unshackled, and free to develop itself in full perfection? Let a man honestly answer these questions, and I ask no more.</p>
<p align="justify">Let him read such a book as Seymour&#8217;s Pilgrimage to Rome, or Alfred&#8217;s Letters, and ask any visitor to Rome if the picture is too highly colored. Let him do this, I say, and I believe he cannot avoid the conclusion that Romanism is a gigantic system of Church-worship, sacrament-worship, Mary-worship, saint-worship, image-worship, relic-worship, and priest-worship! In one word, Romanism is a huge organized idolatry!</p>
<p align="justify">I know how painful these things sound to many ears. To me it is no pleasure to dwell on the shortcomings of any who profess and call themselves Christians. I can say truly that I have said what I have said with pain and sorrow. I draw a wide distinction between the <em>accredited dogmas </em>of the Church of Rome and the <em>private opinions </em>of many of her members. I believe and hope that many a Roman Catholic is in <em>heart </em>inconsistent with his profession, and is better than the Church to which he belongs. I believe that many a poor Catholic at this day is worshiping with an idolatrous worship, simply because he knows no better. He has no Bible to instruct him. He has no faithful minister to teach him. He has the fear of the priest before his eyes, if he dares to think for himself. He has no money to enable him to get away from the bondage he lives under, even if he feels a desire. I remember all this; and I say that the Catholic eminently deserves our sympathy and compassion. But all this must not prevent my saying that the Church of Rome is an idolatrous Church. I would not be faithful if I said less.</p>
<p align="justify">The Church of which I am a minister has spoken out most strongly on the subject. The Homily on &#8220;The Peril of Idolatry,&#8221; and the solemn protest at the end of our Prayer-book Communion Service, which denounces the adoration of the sacramental bread and wine as &#8220;idolatry to be abhorred of all faithful Christians,&#8221; are plain evidence that I have said no more than the mind of my own Church. And in a day like this — when some are disposed to <em>secede </em>to the Church of Rome, and many are shutting their eyes to her real character, and wanting us to be reunited to her — in a day like this, <em>my own conscience would rebuke me if I did not warn men plainly that the Church of Rome is an idolatrous Church, and that if they will join her they are &#8220;joining themselves to idols.&#8221; </em></p>
<p align="justify">But I may not dwell longer on this part of my subject. The main point I wish to impress on men&#8217;s minds is this — that idolatry has decidedly manifested itself in the visible Church of Christ — and nowhere so decidedly as in the Church of Rome.</p>
<p align="justify">IV. And now let me show, in the last place, the ultimate ABOLITION of all idolatry.</p>
<p align="justify"><em>What will end it? </em>I consider that man&#8217;s soul must be in an unhealthy state, who does not long for the time when idolatry shall be no more. That heart can hardly be right with God, which can think of the millions who are sunk in <em>heathenism</em>, or honor the false prophet <em>Mahomet</em>, or daily offer up prayers to the <em>Virgin Mary</em>, and not cry, &#8220;O my God, what shall be the end of these things? How long, O Lord, how long?&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">Here, as in other subjects, the <em>sure word of prophecy </em>comes in to our aid. The end of all idolatry shall one day come. Its doom is fixed. Its overthrow is certain. Whether in heathen temples, or in <em>so-called </em>Christian churches — idolatry shall be destroyed at the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Then shall be fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, &#8220;The idols He shall utterly abolish!&#8221; (Isaiah 2:18.) Then shall be fulfilled the words of Micah 5:13, &#8220;I will destroy all your idols and sacred pillars, so you will never again worship the work of your own hands!&#8221; Then shall be fulfilled the prophecy of Zephaniah 2:11, &#8220;The LORD will terrify them as he destroys all the gods in the land. Then nations around the world will worship the LORD, each in their own land!&#8221; Then shall be fulfilled the prophecy of Zechariah 13:2, &#8220;It shall come to pass at that day, says the Lord Almighty, that I will cut off the names of the <em>idols </em>out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered.&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">In a word, the ninety-seventh Psalm shall then receive its full accomplishment: &#8220;The LORD is king! Let the earth rejoice! Let the farthest coastlands be glad. Dark clouds surround him. Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne. Fire spreads ahead of him and burns up all his foes. His lightning flashes out across the world. The earth sees and trembles. The mountains melt like wax before the LORD, before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim his righteousness; every nation sees his glory! Those who worship idols are disgraced—all who brag about their worthless gods—for every god must bow to Him!&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">The second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ is that <em>blessed hope </em>which should ever comfort the children of God under the present dispensation. It is the pole-star by which we must journey. It is the one point on which all our expectations should be concentrated. &#8220;Yet a little while, and He who shall come will come, and will not tarry.&#8221; (Hebrews 10:37.) Our <em>David </em>shall no longer dwell in Adullam, followed by a despised few, and rejected by the many. He shall take to Himself His great power, and reign, and cause every knee to bow before Him.</p>
<p align="justify">Until then, our redemption is not perfectly enjoyed; as Paul tells the Ephesians, &#8220;We are sealed unto the day of redemption.&#8221; (Ephesians 4:30.) Until then, our salvation is not completed; as Peter says, &#8220;We are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.&#8221; (1 Peter 1:5.) Until then, our knowledge is still defective; as Paul tells the Corinthians: &#8220;Now we see through a glass darkly; but then face to face. Now I know in part; then shall I know even also as I am known.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 13:12.)</p>
<p align="justify">In short, our best things are yet to come. But in the day of our Lord&#8217;s return every desire shall receive its full accomplishment. We shall no more be pressed down and worn out with the sense of constant failure, feebleness, and disappointment. In His presence, we shall find there is a fullness of joy, if nowhere else; and when we awake up after His likeness we shall be satisfied, if we never were before. (Psalm 16:11; 17:15.)</p>
<p align="justify">There are many <em>abominations </em>now in the visible Church, over which we can only sigh and cry, like the faithful in Ezekiel&#8217;s day. (Ezekiel 9:4.) We cannot remove them. The wheat and the tares will grow together until the harvest. But a day comes when the Lord Jesus shall once more purify His temple, and cast forth everything that defiles. He shall do that work of which the reforms of Hezekiah and Josiah were a <em>faint type </em>long ago. He shall cast forth the <em>images</em>, and purge out <em>idolatry </em>in every shape.</p>
<p align="justify">Who is there now that longs for the conversion of the heathen? You will not see it in its fullness until the Lord&#8217;s appearing. Then, and not until then, will that often-misapplied text be fulfilled: &#8220;A man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats.&#8221; (Isaiah 2:20.)</p>
<p align="justify">Who is there now that longs for the redemption of Israel? You will never see it in its perfection until the Redeemer comes to Zion. Idolatry in the professing Church of Christ has been one of the mightiest stumbling-blocks in the Jew&#8217;s way. When it begins to fall, the <em>veil </em>over the heart of Israel shall begin to be taken away. (Psalm 102:16.)</p>
<p align="justify">Who is there now that longs for the fall of <em>Antichrist</em>, and the purification of the Church of Rome? I believe that will never be until the winding up of this dispensation. That vast system of idolatry may be consumed and wasted by the Spirit of the Lord&#8217;s mouth — but it shall never be destroyed excepting by the brightness of His coming. (2 Thessalonians 2:8.)</p>
<p align="justify">Who is there now that longs for a perfect Church — a Church in which there shall not be the slightest taint of idolatry? You must wait for the Lord&#8217;s return. Then, and not until then, shall we see a <em>perfect </em>Church — a Church having neither spot nor wrinkle, nor any such thing (Ephesians 5:27), a Church of which all the members shall be regenerate, and every one a child of God.</p>
<p align="justify">If these things are so, men need not wonder that we urge on them the study of prophecy, and that we charge them above all to grasp firmly the glorious doctrine of Christ&#8217;s second appearing and kingdom. This is the &#8220;light shining in a dark place,&#8221; to which we shall do well to take heed. Let others indulge their imagination if they will, with the vision of an imaginary &#8220;Church of the future.&#8221; Let the children of this world dream of some &#8220;coming man,&#8221; who is to understand everything, and set everything right. They are only sowing to themselves bitter disappointment. They will awake to find their visions as baseless and empty as a dream. It is to such as these, that the Prophet&#8217;s words may be well applied: &#8220;But watch out, you who live in your own light and warm yourselves by your own fires. This is the reward you will receive from me: You will soon fall down in great torment!&#8221; (Isaiah 50:11.)</p>
<p align="justify">But let our eyes look right onward to the day of Christ&#8217;s second advent. That is the only day when every <em>abuse </em>shall be rectified, and every <em>corruption </em>and source of <em>sorrow </em>completely purged away. Waiting for that day, let us each <em>work </em>on and <em>serve </em>our generation; not idle, as if nothing could be done to check evil — but not disheartened because we see not yet all things put under our Lord. After all, the night is far spent, and the day is at hand. Let us wait, I say, on the Lord.</p>
<p align="justify">If these things are so, men need not wonder that we warn them to beware of all <em>leanings towards the Church of Rome</em>. Surely, when the mind of God about idolatry is so plainly revealed to us in His Word, it seems the height of infatuation in anyone to join a Church so steeped in idolatries, as the Church of Rome. To enter into communion with her, when God is saying, &#8220;Come out of her, that you be not partakers of her sins, and receive not of her plagues&#8221; (Revelation 18:4) to seek her, when the Lord is warning us to leave her; to become her subjects, when the Lord&#8217;s voice is crying, &#8220;Escape for your life, flee from the wrath to come!&#8221; All this is mental blindness indeed — a blindness like that of him who, though fore-warned, embarks in a sinking ship — a blindness which would be almost incredible, if our own eyes did not see examples of it continually.</p>
<p align="justify">We must all be on our guard. We must take nothing for granted. We must not hastily suppose that we are too wise to be ensnared, and say, like Hazael, &#8220;Is your servant a dog, that he should do this thing?&#8221; Those who <em>preach</em>, must cry aloud and spare not, and allow no <em>false tenderness </em>to make them hold their peace about the heresies of the day. Those who <em>hear</em>, must have their loins girt about with truth, and their minds stored with clear prophetic views of the end to which all idol-worshipers must come.</p>
<p align="justify">Let us all try to realize that the latter ends of the world are upon us, and that the abolition of all idolatry is hastening on. Is this a time for a man to draw nearer to Rome? Is it not rather a time to draw further back and stand clear, lest we be involved in her downfall? Is this a time to extenuate and palliate Rome&#8217;s manifold corruptions, and refuse to see the reality of her sins? Surely we ought rather to be doubly jealous of everything of a <em>Romish tendency </em>in religion — doubly careful that we do not connive at any treason against our Lord Christ — and doubly ready to protest against unscriptural worship of every description.</p>
<p align="justify">Once more, then, I say, let us remember that the destruction of all idolatry is certain, and remembering that, beware of the Church of Rome! The subject I now touch upon is of deep and pressing importance, and demands the serious attention of all Protestant Churchmen. It is vain to deny that a large party of English clergy and laity in the present day, are moving Heaven and earth to reunite the Church of England with the idolatrous Church of Rome. The publication of that monstrous book, Dr. Pusey&#8217;s <em>Eirenicon</em>, and the formation of a &#8220;Society for Promoting the Union of Christendom,&#8221; are plain evidence of what I mean. He who runs may read. The existence of such a movement as this, will not surprise any one who has carefully watched the history of the Church of England during the last forty years. The tendency of <em>Tractarianism </em>and <em>Ritualism </em>has been steadily towards Rome. Hundreds of men and women have fairly honestly left our ranks, and become downright Papists! But many hundreds more have stayed behind, and are yet nominal Churchmen within our pale.</p>
<p align="justify">The pompous semi-Romish ceremonial which has been introduced into many churches, has prepared men&#8217;s minds for changes. An extravagantly theatrical and idolatrous mode of celebrating the Lord&#8217;s Supper has paved the way for <em>transubstantiation</em>. A regular process of unprotestantizing has been long and successfully at work. The poor old Church of England stands on a downward-sloping plane. Her very existence, as a Protestant Church, is in peril. I hold, for one, that this Romish movement ought to be steadily and firmly resisted. Notwithstanding the rank, the learning, and the devotedness of some of its advocates, I regard it as<em> a most mischievous, soul-ruining, and unscriptural movement. </em></p>
<p align="justify">To say that reunion with Rome would be an insult to our martyred Reformers, is a very light thing; it is far more than this:<em> it would be a sin and an offence against God! </em>Rather than be reunited with the idolatrous Church of Rome, I would willingly see my own beloved Church perish and go to pieces. Rather than become Popish once more — she had better die!</p>
<p align="justify">Unity in the <em>abstract </em>is no doubt an excellent thing: but <em>unity without truth </em>is useless. Peace and uniformity are beautiful and valuable: but peace without the Gospel — peace not based on a common faith, is a worthless peace, not deserving of the name. When Rome has recanted her false and unscriptural doctrines — when Rome has formally renounced image-worship, Mary-worship, and transubstantiation — then, and not until then, it will be time to talk of reunion with her.</p>
<p align="justify">Until then, there is a wide gulf between us which cannot be honestly bridged. Until then, I call on all Churchmen to resist to the death this idea of <em>reunion </em>with Rome. Until then, let our watchwords be, &#8220;No peace with Rome! No communion with idolaters!&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">Well says the admirable Bishop Jewel, in his Apology, &#8220;We do not decline concord and peace with men; but we will not continue in a state of war with God that we might have peace with men! If the Pope does indeed desire we should be reconciled to him — he ought first to reconcile himself to God.&#8221; This witness is true! Well would it be for the Church of England, if all her bishops had been like Jewel!</p>
<p align="justify">I write these things with sorrow. But the circumstances of the times make it absolutely necessary to speak out. To whatever quarter of the horizon I turn, I see grave reason for alarm. For the <em>true </em>Church of Christ, I have no fears at all. But for the Established Church of England, and for all the Protestant Churches of Great Britain — I have very grave fears indeed. The tide of events seems running strongly against Protestantism, and in favor of Rome. It looks as if God had a controversy with us, as a nation, and was about to punish us for our sins.</p>
<p align="justify">I am no prophet. I know not where we are drifting. But at the rate we are going, I think it quite within the verge of possibility that in a few years the Church of England may be reunited to the idolatrous Church of Rome! The Crown of England may be once more on the head of a Papist! Protestantism may be formally repudiated. A Romish Archbishop may once more preside at Lambeth Palace. <em>Mass </em>may be once more said at Westminster Abbey and St. Paul&#8217;s. And one result will be, that all Bible-reading Christians must either leave the Church of England — or else sanction idol-worship and become idolaters!</p>
<p align="justify">God grant we may never come to this state of things! But at the rate we are going, it seems to me quite possible.</p>
<p align="justify">And now it only remains for me to <em>conclude </em>what I have been saying, by mentioning some <em>safeguards </em>for the souls of all who read this paper. We live in a time when the Church of Rome is walking among us with renewed strength, and loudly boasting that she will soon win back the ground that she has lost. False doctrines of every kind are continually set before us in the most subtle and specious forms. It cannot be thought unseasonable if I offer some <span style="color: #008000;"><em><strong>practical safeguards against idolatry</strong></em></span>. What it is, whence it comes, where it is, what will end it — all this we have seen. Let me point out how we may be safe from it, and I will say no more.</p>
<p align="justify">(1) Let us arm ourselves, then, for one thing, with a thorough knowledge of the Word of God.</p>
<p align="justify">Let us read our Bibles more diligently than ever, and become familiar with every part of them. Let the Word dwell in us richly. Let us beware of anything which would make us give less time, and less heart — to the perusal of its sacred pages. The Bible is the <em>sword of the Spirit</em> — let it never be laid aside. The Bible is the true <em>lantern </em>for a dark and cloudy time — let us beware of traveling without its light.</p>
<p align="justify">I strongly suspect, if we did but know the secret history of the numerous secessions from our Church to that of Rome, which we deplore — I strongly suspect that in almost every case one of the most important steps in the <em>downward road </em>would be found to have been <em>a neglected Bible</em> — more attention to forms, sacraments, daily services, and so forth, and diminished attention to the written Word of God. The Bible is the King&#8217;s highway. If we once leave that for any by-path, however beautiful, and old, and frequented it may seem — we must never be surprised if we end with worshiping images and relics, and going regularly to a confessional!</p>
<p align="justify">(2) Let us arm ourselves, in the second place, with a godly jealousy about the least portion of the Gospel.</p>
<p align="justify">Let us beware of sanctioning the slightest attempt to keep back any jot or tittle of it, or to throw any part of it into the shade by exalting subordinate matters in religion. When Peter withdrew himself from eating with the Gentiles, it seemed but a little thing; yet Paul tells the Galatians, &#8220;I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.&#8221; (Galatians 2:11.) Let us count nothing <em>little </em>which concerns our souls. Let us be very particular whom we hear, where we go, and what we do — in all the matters of our own particular worship. And let us care nothing for the imputation of squeamishness and excessive scrupulosity.</p>
<p align="justify">We live in days when great principles are involved in little acts; and things in religion, which fifty years ago were utterly indifferent, are now by circumstances rendered indifferent no longer. Let us beware of tampering with anything of a <em>Romanizing tendency</em>.<em> It is foolishness to play with fire. </em>I believe that many of our perverts and seceders began with thinking there could be no mighty harm in attaching a little more importance to certain outward things than they once did. But once launched on the <em>downward course</em>, they went on from one thing to another. They provoked God — and He left them to themselves! They were given over to strong delusion, and allowed to believe a lie. (2 Thessalonians 2:11.) They tempted the devil — and he came to them! They started with <em>trifles</em>, as many foolishly call them. They have ended with <em>downright idolatry! </em></p>
<p align="justify">(3) Let us arm ourselves, last of all, with clear sound views of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of the salvation that is in Him.</p>
<p align="justify">He is the &#8220;image of the invisible God,&#8221; — the express &#8220;image of His person,&#8221; — and the true preservative against all idolatry, when truly known. Let us build ourselves deep down on the strong foundation of His <em>finished work upon the cross. </em>Let us settle it firmly in our minds, that Christ Jesus has done everything needful in order to present us without spot before the throne of God, and that simple childlike faith on our part, is the only thing required to give us a saving interest in the work of Christ. Let us not doubt that, having this faith, we are <em>completely justified </em>in the sight of God — will never be more justified if we live to the age of Methuselah and do the works of the Apostle Paul. We <em>can </em>add nothing to that complete justification by any acts, deeds, words, performances, fastings, prayers, alms-deeds, attendance on ordinances, or anything else of our own.</p>
<p align="justify">Above all, let us keep up <em>continual communion </em>with the Lord Jesus! Let us abide in Him daily, feed on Him daily, look to Him daily, lean on Him daily, live upon Him daily, draw from His fullness daily. Let us realize this, and the idea of other mediators, other comforters, other intercessors — will seem utterly absurd. &#8220;What need is there?&#8221; we shall reply: &#8220;I have Christ, and in Him I have all. What have I to do with idols? I have Jesus in my heart, Jesus in the Bible, and Jesus in Heaven — and I want nothing more!&#8221;</p>
<p align="justify">Once let the Lord Christ have His rightful place in our hearts, and all other things in our religion will soon fall into their right places. Church, ministers, sacraments, ordinances, all will go down, and take the second place. Except Christ sits as Priest and King upon the throne of our hearts — that <em>little kingdom within </em>will be in perpetual confusion. But only let Him be &#8220;all in all&#8221; there — and all will be well. Before Him every <em>idol</em>, every <em>Dagon </em>shall fall down!</p>
<p align="justify">Christ rightly known, Christ truly believed, and Christ heartily loved — is the true preservative against ritualism, Romanism and every form of idolatry!</p>
<p><strong>J.C. Ryle</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>HT: <a href="http://gracegems.org/" target="_blank">Grace Gems</a></p>
<p>See also:</p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to THE CHURCH OF ROME IS AN IDOLATROUS CHURCH; THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REAL MAN OF GOD AND A COMPROMISED PEOPLE-PLEASER" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/10/the-church-of-rome-is-an-idolatrous-church-the-difference-between-a-real-man-of-god-and-a-compromised-people-pleaser/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">THE CHURCH OF ROME IS AN IDOLATROUS CHURCH; THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REAL MAN OF GOD AND A COMPROMISED PEOPLE-PLEASER</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS" href="http://apprising.org/2011/11/08/rick-warren-and-teachings-of-demons/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to JAMES ROBISON AND RICK WARREN WORKING TO REVERSE THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION" href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/18/james-robison-and-rick-warren-working-to-reverse-the-protestant-reformation/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">JAMES ROBISON AND RICK WARREN WORKING TO REVERSE THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION</a></p>
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		<title>TBN&#8217;S PAUL AND JAN CROUCH’S GRANDDAUGHTER SUING FOR UNLAWFUL DISTRIBUTION OF ‘CHARITABLE ASSETS’</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ken Silva pastor-teacher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Apprising Ministries special correspondent Chrystal Whitt of Slaughter of the Sheep This is a repost of an original article on Slaughter of the Sheep It appears that Paul and Jan Crouch, founders of TV empire Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) need to keep their friends close, and their enemies even closer – especially if that [...]]]></description>
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<p>By <a href="http://apprising.org/" target="_blank">Apprising Ministries</a> special correspondent Chrystal Whitt of <a href="http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Slaughter of the Sheep</a><br />
This is a repost of <a href="http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/paul-and-jan-crouchs-granddaughter-suing-for-unlawful-distribution-of-charitable-assets/" target="_blank">an original article on Slaughter of the Sheep</a></p>
<p>It appears that Paul and Jan Crouch, founders of TV empire Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) need to keep their friends close, and their enemies even closer – especially if that enemy is one of their grandchildren.</p>
<p>An article in the Christian Post reveals that Brittany B. Koper, granddaughter of Paul and Jan Crouch, is suing her former attorneys for “breach of duties, inflicting emotional distress and professional negligence.” Apparently the attorneys advised her to help cover up financial abuse and fraud at TBN.</p>
<blockquote><p>After Koper took charge of TBN’s finance department, she allegedly discovered illegal financial practices on the part of the company’s directors, but was told to protect the information.</p>
<p>“Following her appointment, Ms. Koper was specifically instructed to falsify public financial disclosures, to falsify government records, and to otherwise cover up conduct of the TBN Companies and their directors that Ms. Koper reasonably believed to be unlawful,” the suit claims.</p></blockquote>
<p>None of this is surprising, but if the allegations are true, it’s going to be hard for a lot of people to turn a deaf ear to someone as close to the family as a grandchild. Many will still defend them and claim this attack is from the devil, however, it doesn’t sound like Roper set out on this course empty handed. It appears she has some leverage:</p>
<blockquote><p>Her attorney, MacLeod, also told the OC Register that Koper is preparing a package of documents regarding her charges that she will submit to the Internal Revenue Service for review.</p></blockquote>
<p>It looks like she took evidence of the fraud with her when she left. Now, this should get very, very interesting.</p>
<p>Read the full article where the above quotes was taken from the <a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/lawsuit-claims-unlawful-distribution-of-charitable-assets-by-tbn-directors-69237/" target="_blank">Christian Post</a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>The original appears complete with a comments section for you to join the discussion right <a href="http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/paul-and-jan-crouchs-granddaughter-suing-for-unlawful-distribution-of-charitable-assets/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>See also:</p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to T.D. JAKES PREACHING HERETICAL WORD FAITH POSITIVE CONFESSION" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/09/t-d-jakes-preaching-heretical-word-faith-positive-confession/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">T.D. JAKES PREACHING HERETICAL WORD FAITH POSITIVE CONFESSION</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to T.D. JAKES HAS TIES TO “RABBI” RALPH MESSER" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/09/t-d-jakes-has-ties-to-rabbi-ralph-messer/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">T.D. JAKES HAS TIES TO “RABBI” RALPH MESSER</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: T.D. JAKES AND PAULA WHITE" href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/26/elephant-in-the-room-t-d-jakes-and-paula-white/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: T.D. JAKES AND PAULA WHITE</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ken Silva pastor-teacher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[  J.C. Ryle: &#8220;My dearly beloved, flee from idolatry!&#8221; 1 Corinthians 10:14 Romanism is a gigantic system of sacrament-worship, Mary-worship, saint-worship, image-worship, relic-worship, and priest-worship! In one word, Romanism is a huge organized idolatry! I know how painful these things sound to many ears. To me it is no pleasure to dwell on the shortcomings [...]]]></description>
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<strong>J.C. Ryle:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;My dearly beloved, flee from idolatry!&#8221; 1 Corinthians 10:14</p>
<p><em>Romanism </em>is a gigantic system of sacrament-worship, Mary-worship, saint-worship, image-worship, relic-worship, and priest-worship! In one word, Romanism is <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>a huge organized idolatry! </strong></span></p>
<p>I know how painful these things sound to many ears. To me it is no pleasure to dwell on the shortcomings of any who profess and call themselves Christians. I can say truly that I have said what I have said with pain and sorrow.</p>
<p>I believe that many a poor Catholic at this day is worshiping with an idolatrous worship, simply because he knows no better. He has no Bible to instruct him. He has no faithful minister to teach him. I remember all this; and I say that the Catholic eminently deserves our <em>sympathy </em>and <em>compassion</em>.</p>
<p>But all this must not prevent my saying that <strong>the Church of Rome is an idolatrous Church</strong>. I would not be faithful if I said less.</p>
<p>My own conscience would rebuke me if I did not warn men plainly that the Church of Rome is an idolatrous Church, and that if they will join her, they are &#8220;joining themselves to idols!&#8221;</p>
<p>That heart can hardly be right with God, which can think of the millions who are sunk in <em>heathenism</em>, or honor the false prophet <em>Mahomet</em>, or daily offer up prayers to the <em>Virgin Mary</em> — and not cry, &#8220;O my God, what shall the <em>end </em>of these things be? How long, O Lord, how long?&#8221;</p>
<p>Christ rightly known, Christ truly believed, and Christ heartily loved — is the true preservative against ritualism, Romanism and every form of idolatry! (<a href="http://www.gracegems.org/2012/01/idolatry.html" target="_blank">Online source</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Rick Warren:</strong></p>
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(<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/RickWarren/status/167072427300487168" target="_blank">Online source</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>See also:</p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS" href="http://apprising.org/2011/11/08/rick-warren-and-teachings-of-demons/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to JAMES ROBISON AND RICK WARREN WORKING TO REVERSE THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION" href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/18/james-robison-and-rick-warren-working-to-reverse-the-protestant-reformation/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">JAMES ROBISON AND RICK WARREN WORKING TO REVERSE THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to BETH MOORE AND HER VISION OF A ROMAN CATHOLIC DENOMINATION" href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/19/beth-moore-and-her-vision-of-a-roman-catholic-denomination/" rel="bookmark">BETH MOORE AND HER VISION OF A ROMAN CATHOLIC DENOMINATION</a></p>
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		<title>WYCLIFFE-GATE UPDATE: PAKISTAN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH SAYS NO TO BIBLE TRANSLATIONS</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ken Silva pastor-teacher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Apprising Ministries special correspondent Rob Willmann of Shepherd&#8217;s Heart Bible Study This is a repost of an original article on Shepherd&#8217;s Heart Bible Study In a very eye-opening official press release from the Presbyterian Church of Pakistan, Rev. Dr. Altaf Khan says ‘No’ to the Wycliffe (WBT)\SIL translations: (official press release) I, Rev. Dr. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://apprising.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Rob.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-32704" title="Rob" src="http://apprising.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Rob.jpg" alt="" width="70" height="70" /></a>By <a href="http://apprising.org/" target="_blank">Apprising Ministries</a> special correspondent Rob Willmann of <a href="http://shepherds-heart-bible-study.com/" target="_blank">Shepherd&#8217;s Heart Bible Study</a><br />
This is a repost of <a href="http://shepherds-heart-bible-study.com/2012/02/wycliffe-gate-update-pakistan-presbyterian-church-says-no-to-bible-translations/" target="_blank">an original article on Shepherd&#8217;s Heart Bible Study</a></p>
<p><a href="http://apprising.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/04.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-57288" title="0" src="http://apprising.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/04.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="154" /></a>In a very eye-opening official press release from the Presbyterian Church of Pakistan, Rev. Dr. Altaf Khan says ‘No’ to the Wycliffe (WBT)\SIL translations: (<a href="http://biblicalmissiology.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ChurchofPakistanRegardingBibleTranslation.pdf">official press release</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>I, Rev. Dr. Altaf Khan, the Acting Moderator of Presbyterian Church of Pakistan [PCP] would like to bring into your attention the recent translation issues brought by Summer Institute of Linguistics [SIL] or Wycliffe Bible Translators.</p>
<p>The controversy arose when the idea of contextualization was first floated by SIL. In the name of contextualization, SIL intended to remove Father or Son from the future translated versions citing that some local Muslims can only see sexual connotations to these terms. PCP in its General Assembly held in November 2011 [around 200 Church leaders participated], executive meeting [around 30 Church leaders] and multiple gatherings in different cities where Christian leaders from all denominations participated, <strong>has publicly condemned such justifications for the sake of convenient translation</strong>. In this regard, PCP board of directors unanimously passed the following submissions:</p></blockquote>
<p>[Note from Rob: This is strong, concrete language. Praise God that Dr. Khan is standing up to this!]</p>
<p>He continues:</p>
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<li>The Precedent of Centuries old Biblical Translation established by our forefathers, missionaries, biblical institutions cannot and must not be overturned, amended, or omitted by SIL or any other foreign translating institution.</li>
<li>That before making any changes to the current Bible translation, SIL must take into confidence all the major Christian denominations and Church leaders.</li>
<li><strong>The doctrine of Trinity is and remains one of the rudimentary tenets uniformly adopted by the First Council of Nicaea [Ecumenical Council 325 A.D.]. And that such well settled doctrine of our faith cannot be omitted by any Translating institution.</strong></li>
<li>That any interpretative measures which substantially and adversely affect our fundamental dogmas <strong>must be prohibited at all costs.</strong></li>
<li><strong>That certain creeds, cannons, and beliefs which are rationally related to our faith cannot be jeopardized for the sake of any particular target audience.</strong></li>
<li>That any such autonomous and arbitrary act by SIL would bring <strong>irreparable injury to our faith, community, and Church worldwide.</strong></li>
<li>That<strong> PCP will severe its nexus with SIL</strong> or any other translating institution as a matter of principle and continue to denounce such actions at all levels. </li>
</ol>
<p>Friends, please read the <a href="http://biblicalmissiology.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ChurchofPakistanRegardingBibleTranslation.pdf">entire letter here</a>. The Pakistan Presbyterians need our prayers and support during this time.</p>
<p>Also, consider this: These Christians in Pakistan are able to make such a strong stand because they are able to read the source material (ie. mistranslated bibles) and clearly see the issue with “Son of God” and “God the Father” being mis-translated in these languages.</p>
<p>Again I’d like to point to these two videos:<br />
Video 1:</p>
<p><iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LzPK93pI65I" frameborder="0" width="560" height="315"></iframe><br />
Video 2:</p>
<p><iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gOb7ny97GAI" frameborder="0" width="560" height="315"></iframe></p>
<p>Consider these questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>How long has this been coming? If these mistranslated bibles are the fruit, then what’s the rottenness at the core of Wycliffe that’s causing this issue? Is it “dynamic equivalency”-influenced translation methodologies, or is there more to it?</li>
<li>Why does Wycliffe continue to state that there’s nothing wrong with these translations?</li>
<li>Will Wycliffe continue to deny the issue? Is that modus operandi for organizations once they reach this size? I think that part of Christian accountability (especially when it comes to handling the translation of God’s Word) should be open, honest, and addressed in humility with the emphasis that God’s very words are at stake here.</li>
<li>Will other denominations and groups take a stand with these Pakistani Presbyterians? I am standing with them on this issue.</li>
<li>Why is the church visible not up in arms about the sycretism that’s occurring in the mission field? Is C5 and C6 contextualization the new norm form missions?</li>
<li>If so, why? What was wrong with the past 2000 years of missions?</li>
<li>Since there already existed quality translations in these receptor languages, why does Wycliffe feel the need for new translations?</li>
</ol>
<p>More to come…..</p>
<p>Resources:</p>
<p><a title="To Wycliffe, SIL, And Foundations: Is the Gospel an Offense, and Dare We Change It?" href="http://shepherds-heart-bible-study.com/2012/02/to-wycliffe-sil-and-foundations-is-the-gospel-an-offense-and-dare-we-change-it/">To Wycliffe, SIL, And Foundations: Is the Gospel an Offense, and Dare We Change It?</a></p>
<p><a title="Update: Wycliffe Changes their Statement on Bible Translations for Muslims" href="http://shepherds-heart-bible-study.com/2012/02/update-wycliffe-changes-their-statement-on-bible-translations-for-muslims/">Update: Wycliffe Changes their Statement on Bible Translations for Muslims</a></p>
<p><a href="http://biblicalmissiology.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ChurchofPakistanRegardingBibleTranslation.pdf">Official Press Release from Pakistan Presbyterians (courtesy of BiblicalMissiology.org)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>The original appears complete with a comments section for you to join the discussion right <a href="http://shepherds-heart-bible-study.com/2012/02/wycliffe-gate-update-pakistan-presbyterian-church-says-no-to-bible-translations/" target="_blank">here.</a></p>
<p>See also:</p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to UPDATE: WYCLIFFE CHANGES THEIR STATEMENT ON BIBLE TRANSLATIONS FOR MUSLIMS" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/08/update-wycliffe-changes-their-statement-on-bible-translations-for-muslims/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">UPDATE: WYCLIFFE CHANGES THEIR STATEMENT ON BIBLE TRANSLATIONS FOR MUSLIMS</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to NEW BIBLE TRANSLATIONS TO DROP ‘FATHER’ AND ‘SON’" href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/28/new-bible-translations-to-drop-father-and-son/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">NEW BIBLE TRANSLATIONS TO DROP ‘FATHER’ AND ‘SON’</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Amanda Bowers (Hears His Voice blog) Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. James 3:1 Dear Sisters in Christ, It is with regret and repentance in my heart that I am sending this letter to you. As you know [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>by Amanda Bowers <a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/">(Hears His Voice</a> blog)</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. James 3:1</em></strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Dear Sisters in Christ,</p>
<div>It is with regret and repentance in my heart that I am sending this letter to you. As you know over the past four years I participated in leading and facilitating several Bible studies including specifically authors Beth Moore and Henry Blackaby. This was a great privilege and opportunity, and it was something I enjoyed greatly as I fellowshipped with each of you desired to grow together in the knowledge and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ by the study of His Word.</div>
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<div>However, as it has pleased our Lord to reveal to me over the past six months and while I never intended to<strong> ever misuse the Word</strong> or take it out of context<strong> in any way</strong> so as to mislead or harm anyone, and while I am not saying that was the intent of the above teachers I mentioned, I have come to realize that my lack of full understanding of God’s Word, in particular with regard to the closure of the Canon of Scripture and also my irresponsibility in not fully evaluating the above teachers before agreeing to promote or endorse them by leading studies, it is quite possible that I have misled some of you. For this I sincerely ask your forgiveness and I repent. I have stepped down from teaching at this time as I desire to not take lightly the great privilege and honor it is to teach the Word of God and I recognize that I have much more to learn.</div>
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<div>Now as to specifics for what I am referring to, it has come to my knowledge that the above teachers, while I have no intention of judging their hearts or motives, have misused God’s Word and/or aligned themselves up with others who have done so.</div>
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<div>Regarding Beth Moore, through a series of circumstances this summer (<a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/104/">you can read about it here</a>), I became acquainted with a movement known as, “Spiritual Formation” and in this movement in particular I became aware of a type of prayer being promoted known as “Contemplative Prayer” (also goes by the title “listening prayer” and “centering prayer” also may hear the term “God’s whispers” or listening for that “still small voice”) This type of prayer is touted as being handed down to us by what are known as the “Desert Fathers” which is used to describe many of the monks and priests of the first centuries. While on the surface this prayer seems to be about contemplating our Lord as we pray which would be Biblical, it is in fact a prayer that endorses the notion that in order to really “connect with God’ one must “empty or quiet their minds of all thought” in order to “hear God speak to us”. Many of the proponents of Contemplative prayer go so far as to say that we should learn from those who practice this type of prayer in the eastern religions, such as Hindus and Zen Buddhists. Well, sadly, NO WHERE in Scripture are we ever taught to “empty our minds”. Sure, we are told to “Be still and know that I am God” which is the most popular verse of Scripture used to endorse this prayer, a careful study of Psalm 46:10 reveals that the psalmist is referring to our anxiety and not being anxious about our lives as God is in charge. This passage is not an instruction in prayer at all. In fact, if we study scripture we know that Jesus told us numerous times to be watchful in prayer because we have an enemy that seeks to destroy us. We are told to “renew our minds” by the Word of God, not to empty them.</div>
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<div><strong>Continue steadfastly in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving. Colossians 4:2</strong></div>
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<div><strong>Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8</strong></div>
<div><strong>Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes. Truly, I say to you, he will dress himself for service and have them recline at table, and he will come and serve them. Luke 12:37</strong></div>
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<div><strong>Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matthew 26:41</strong></div>
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<p>One of the leading proponents of Contemplative prayer is a man named Richard Foster. The most dangerous aspect of this teaching and the movement known as “Spiritual Formation” is that there is a blurring of lines between Christianity and other religions. In fact, Mr. Foster, makes no apologies on his ministry website, Renovare, he states the following:</p>
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<div>“Renovaré is a nonprofit Christian organization headquartered in Englewood, Colorado, and active worldwide. We seek to resource, fuel, model, and advocate more intentional living and spiritual formation among Christians and those wanting a deeper connection with God. A foundational presence in the spiritual formation movement for over 20 years, Renovaré is Christian in commitment, ecumenical in breadth, and international in scope.</div>
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<div>In his very popular book, Celebration of Discipline, Richard Foster describes an experience of “contemplative prayer” in this way:</div>
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<div>“In your imagination allow your spiritual body, shining with light, to rise out of your physical body. Look back so that you can see yourself lying in the grass and reassure your body that you will return momentarily. Imagine your spiritual self, alive and vibrant, rising up through the clouds and into the stratosphere. . . Go deeper and deeper into outer space until there is nothing except the warm presence of the eternal Creator. Rest in His presence. Listen quietly, anticipating the unanticipated. Note carefully any instruction given. With time and experience you will be able to distinguish readily between mere human thought that may bubble up to the conscious mind and the True Spirit which inwardly moves upon the heart. (Foster: 27, 28)”</div>
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<div>Sisters, that is NOT biblical prayer! That is called<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection"> Astral Projection</a> by the New Age movement.</div>
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<div>I hope you notice right away that <strong>no one but Christians who have been born again by the Spirit </strong>can have a “deeper connection with God”. Mr. Foster is endorsing that ANYONE who desires a deeper connection with God can achieve this connection practicing the many “spiritual disciplines” he endorses which include “contemplative prayer” and other extra biblical means.</div>
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<p>What does this have to do with Beth Moore? Ms. Moore participated in and endorsed contemplative prayer<strong> with Richard Foster</strong> in a 2006 video called “Be Still,” (and yes, I viewed it myself). She unashamedly endorsed contemplative prayer as a means by which we can hear God in our lives and have a deeper connection to God. She also quotes other contemplatives in many of her studies (including one I taught some of you called, “When Godly People Do Ungodly Things”), including Roman Catholic mystics Basil Pennington and Brennan Manning.</p>
<div>Here are some online references that speak more about Beth’s participation and endorsement in this unbiblical form of prayer.</div>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://dayzofelijah.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/a-word-on-beth-moore-by-a-bold-pastor/">A Word on Beth Moore</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2010/03/breaking-free-from-beth-moore-and-her.html">Breaking Free From Beth Moore</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://apprising.org/2010/03/11/a-beth-moore-expose/">A Beth Moore Exposé</a></p></blockquote>
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<div>And here are articles explaining the dangers of mysticism, and why mysticism is unbiblical:</div>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-is-mysticism.html">What Is Mysticism?</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/151/">Are You Bowing To the Golden Calf of Mysticism?</a></p></blockquote>
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<div>I also highly recommend this video done by former Roman Catholic Priest Richard Bennett who was born again years ago and is warning people about this very type of teaching.</div>
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<p>I can provide you much more evidence that Richard Foster who is a Quaker and sadly he is widely accepted as offering Christians much to learn regarding prayer, is not handling the Word of God correctly and in fact, promotes that ANYONE desiring a closer relationship with God can have it. ANYONE: regardless if they are Christian or not.<a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/"> (In fact, I began writing a blog to share what God has shown me over the past few months, and you are welcome to go there for more information.)</a>There is a dangerous movement coming into many evangelical churches and if I were to write to you all that I have learned this past six months, this letter would be even longer. But I am happy to share more with any of you who desire to know and I sincerely hope you will at least consider giving an ear to what I have to say as one who loves the Lord and loves you as my sisters. You can email me at jcdisciple07@gmail.com. I will send you as much material as you want documenting my concerns over Richard Foster and the endorsement of him by Beth Moore and others in the evangelical world. And again, I sincerely ask your forgiveness for my not being more cautious myself as to who I endorse or align myself with in teaching. We are told in the Word several times that when false teachers, as Foster is one, are discovered we are not to promote them, but to flee from their teaching and expose them. By endorsing him and being in his video, Beth Moore is lending a full endorsement to him.</p>
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<div>Just so you know, I did contact Living Proof Ministries with my concerns, but received no reply. Several others online have indicated that she has been contacted and either has not contacted them back or has maintained that <a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/bethmoorestatement.htm">she stands behind her promotion and participation in the Be Still video of 2006</a>.</div>
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<div><strong>I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles <span style="text-decoration: underline;">contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them</span>. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Romans 16:17-18, my emphasis</strong></div>
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<div>I want to also thank a few of you who, during the time that I was leading “When Godly People Do Ungodly Things,” were alert that something wasn’t quite right and came to me about Beth Moore and her teachings. At that time my discernment skills were not as sharp as they should have been, but your questioning planted a seed that the Lord later used to deliver me from her bad teaching and I hope now to set that straight for you and any others who may have been led astray by me. Again, I am truly sorry.</div>
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<p>Now, as to Mr. Blackaby, my concern with him is similar but hinges more on the endorsement that God is still speaking to us and giving us revelations today.<strong> Let me be clear here</strong> that, while I do not disagree that the Holy Spirit guides us by conviction of sin, bringing to our remembrance passages of Scripture that we have studied, and pointing always to Jesus, I <em>do not</em> believe that the prophetic gifts and visions are still occurring today, Scripture and church history has taught and confirmed via numerous trials over various heresies that these gifts were poured out during the days of the Apostles to verify they were from God and for the writing down of the canon of Scripture, but <a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2011/07/charismatic-chaos.html">as the canon was closed, these charismatic gifts ceased</a>. Again we are not taught in scripture to sit in silence and empty our minds in an attempt to “listen to God”</p>
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<div>In his book, Hearing God’s Voice, Mr. Blackaby even states this,</div>
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<div>“There is nothing more important in life than understanding when God is speaking to you. If you are disoriented to God’s voice, your life is dangerously vulnerable. The Bible indicates conclusively that God does speak to people and that he does guide them in his will. The problem of not hearing from God never lies with God. He does communicate his will. It is not a matter of us searching in vain for God’s hidden will. He readily reveals it to those who show themselves obedient to do it. If you do not hear God’s voice, could it be your heart is not ready to respond to what he says?”</div>
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<div>This is pretty typical of Blackaby’s teaching. Indicating that if you don’t “hear God speaking to you” it is a problem with you and probably because you are sinning or unwilling to obey. Well, what if you have searched and confessed every sin you know to do so, and still don’t “hear” God? Who of us is ever completely free from sin? Why do we continue to seek to “hear God” when He has already given us a written revelation for our lives.</div>
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<div><em><strong>It was this teaching that tormented my soul, kept me paralyzed as to how to serve God many times, and caused a class system in thinking that some Christians are just more “holy” than others. Friends, this is simply NOT TRUE. Your heavenly Father loves You dearly and He has given you a closed cannon of Scripture to study and obey. We pray to God using words as He instructed in the Lord’s Prayer, then by the Holy Spirit, does answer our prayers and providentially does guide us, but He uses the Word to do so and He never instructs us that if we aren’t “hearing Him speak” it is because we aren’t righteous enough or haven’t learned the proper techniques to sit in silence and “hear Him”. </strong></em></div>
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<div>Again, I reiterate, I am not at all saying that Ms. Moore or Mr. Blackaby are intentionally misleading folks any more than I was intentionally misleading you. I believe they have the best of intentions in their teaching, but the bottom line is we are instructed in scripture to test everything and to be Bereans and take it back to scripture to see if it is so.</div>
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<div><strong>The brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men. Acts 17:10-12</strong></div>
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<p>For some other references to help you understand my concerns over Mr. Blackaby I refer you here:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.svchapel.org/resources/book-reviews/4-christian-living/118-experiencing-god-by-henry-blackaby">Experiencing God Book Review (Gary Gilley)</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue99.htm">Unbiblical Teachings on Prayer and Experiencing God (Bob DeWaay)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>When Ms. Moore promotes contemplative prayer and silence which is akin to eastern mystical mediation and when Mr. Blackaby threatens Christians that if they aren’t “hearing God” it is because they don’t have a right relationship with God and haven’t rightly learned how to read the signs of circumstances, people, and random Bible reading, they both mislead Christians into a more mystical experiential driven walk with God rather than one built upon solid Bible understanding an Biblical decision making.</p>
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<div>I offer a few more articles and videos at the end of this letter for you to read to understand more than I can express in this short letter. If you do not use the internet or have access, please contact me. I am happy to print out these articles and mail them to you. Essentially, this is an issue over what was termed by the Reformers of the protestant Reformation, Sola Scriptura. It means Scripture Alone. It was a fundamental issue that the Reformers stood upon when protesting the Roman Catholic Teaching that men need additional teaching and experiences outside of Scripture in order to fully know how to be saved, how to know Christ, and how to know what He wants for their lives. The Reformers staunchly defended the idea that Scripture is all that is necessary for faith and living. Basing this upon the Scriptures that tell us,</div>
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<div><strong>All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, my emphasis</strong></div>
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<div>I want to add that, historically, Baptists have been the ones to stand firmly against the charismatic false teachings that tried to enter the church. I really don’t know what is happening today, but many have sadly been led astray from this foundational truth and are compromising the Word by promoting eastern mysticism as a valuable tool for Christians.</div>
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<div>Again, I want to say. I am NOT SAYING the Holy Spirit doesn’t lead us and guide us into God’s providential will. Not at all! In fact, I truly believe that God is Sovereign and nothing happens that isn’t according to His decree and Sovereign will. What I am saying, however, is that in our prayer life we are never taught to sit in silence to &#8220;summon&#8221; God to reveal to us through inner hunches His will for our lives. We are never taught that we can’t make decisions until we know what God is “saying to us” or “revealing” to us. God has already “revealed” His will for every believer in His written Word. The canon has been closed and all we need is to study it <strong>in context</strong>, obey what we are told which includes renewing our minds and not being conformed to this world, so that by this renewal of our mind and knowledge of the Word, as we go through our lives, the Holy Spirit will guide us and bring to our remembrance Scripture in order to enable us to make wise decisions. But to seek to “hear Him” in some mystical fashion, and worse, to threaten Christians that if they aren’t “experiencing God” in this manner it is likely because of sin or unwillingness to obey, is at best a misrepresentation of the correct way to pray, and at worse tormenting to the soul of a genuine believer longing to follow Christ.</div>
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<div>I love you, dear sisters, and I hope you understand my heart is only to warn you and apologize for not being more discerning in the past. I recognize these are heavy topics and may take you completely by surprise. I only pray, that you will understand my heart is only desirous of honoring our Lord and His Word and in loving my sisters by not refraining to speak the truth in love.</div>
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<div><strong>Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. 1 Corinthians 16:13</strong></div>
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<div>In His Name and For His Glory Alone,</div>
<div>Amanda Bowers</div>
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<div><strong>Additional Resources </strong></div>
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<div>Just Do Something: How to Make a Decision Without Dreams, Visions, Fleeces, Open Doors, Random Bible Verses, Casting Lots, Liver Shivers, Writing in the Sky, etc.</div>
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<div><strong>What is Contemplative prayer?</strong></div>
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<div><a href="http://youtu.be/3fOkxORTWHs">http://youtu.be/3fOkxORTWHs</a></div>
<div><a href="http://youtu.be/RaccrwYGOsA">http://youtu.be/RaccrwYGOsA</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnC5uXEeUc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnC5uXEeUc</a></div>
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<div><strong>Who is Richard Foster and what is Spiritual formation?</strong></div>
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<div><a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/104/">http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/104/</a><br />
<a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/114/">http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/114/</a><br />
<a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/why-i-believe-richard-foster-is-a-false-teacher-reason-2-denies-total-depravity-and-salvation-by-grace-alone/">http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/why-i-believe-richard-foster-is-a-false-teacher-reason-2-denies-total-depravity-and-salvation-by-grace-alone/</a><br />
<a href="http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/151/">http://hearshisvoice.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/151/</a><br />
<a href="http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue112.htm">http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue112.htm</a></div>
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<p>So.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago there was <a href="http://www.theelephantroom.com/">a conference</a>. Way back when the participants were announced, concerns were voiced about one of them being a modalistic heretic and word-of-faith shill. Those who expressed this concern were dismissed as haters who never want to listen to a man before they decide what he believes. They were told that it was wrong to oppose his being called a “brother” because, after all, he’s an American. Nevertheless, they insisted that since everyone knows what “brother” means in a Christian context this was still something of a problem. The purpose statement was adjusted accordingly; the invitation list was not.</p>
<p>The conference went on as scheduled. <a href="http://crbcviews.blogspot.com/2012/01/elephant-room-ii-session-4-transcript.html">Twenty-six minutes</a> were set aside to discuss the Trinity, which is twenty-six more than were reserved to address the prosperity gospel. Most of those minutes were spent mocking the very idea of theological clarity. The heretic answered “yes” to a list of easy questions &#8211; all the while reserving the right to clarify his answers with the old heretical terminology &#8211; and then his two purportedly orthodox questioners declared his answers sufficient and proceeded to explain that what the church needs now is love sweet love.</p>
<p>As bad as the conference was, it proved tame in comparison to the defense offered after the fact. When Christendom failed to confirm the proclamation of orthodoxy which had been made, the host of the conference, together with a few of his friends, <a href="http://jamesmacdonald.com/blog/?p=11232">said</a>: Hey, you’re all racists &#8211; except those of you who happen to be black, you’re sell-outs.</p>
<p>While you let that sink in, contemplate this: <em>we’re</em> the haters!</p>
<p>Are you stunned? Taken by surprise? Are you left breathlessly asking, “Wh…wha…what just happened?” How could men whom we <em>thought</em> were trustworthy and doctrinally sound have perpetrated such a crime upon the church? How did it ever come to this? Why would they choose this particularly destructive course of action? I realize that as soon as that last question is asked, some will say that we are wrong to judge motives. This would be true if we were guessing, but in this case no guesswork is required. We’ll just stick to the documented evidence.</p>
<p>In order to explain this sad, ugly train-wreck, let me take you back to the beginning and ask &#8211; <em>again</em> &#8211; a question which has thus far been ignored. When my attention was first directed to the Elephant Room, I noticed an odd detail in the <a href="http://www.theelephantroom.com/about/">Purpose Statement</a> &#8211; and yes, this is one of the bits that never got edited out. The curious words were, “Fidelity and fruitfulness, both matter.”</p>
<p>Now as soon as I saw that I began to wonder about it. It’s a catchy, alliterative statement, but it seems to suggest that fidelity and fruitfulness don’t <em>necessarily</em> go hand-in-hand. If you aren’t careful, your pursuit of the one might drive out the other. In other words this is a matter of balance: don’t love fidelity too much, lest you lose fruitfulness, and vice versa. Now in order for that to be true, either “fruitfulness” or &#8220;fidelity&#8221; must be defined in some extra-biblical way. Biblical fruit <em>always</em> results from biblical fidelity. Any sort of fruit which even could be in opposition to <em>true</em> fidelity is not <em>real</em> fruit.</p>
<p>I went so far as to ask James MacDonald what “fruitfulness” means in an <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2011/10/open-letter-to-james-macdonald.html">Open Letter</a>. I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Elephant Room Purpose Statement speaks of fidelity and fruitfulness; do you understand “fruitfulness” to be something judged by the size of a congregation, or does that concept mean more? Are fidelity and fruitfulness opposing poles between which we must find “a new center,” or is fruitfulness defined and determined by fidelity?</p></blockquote>
<p>To be fair, that question appeared in a longer post calling into question the youth ministry at Harvest Bible Chapel, a ministry which I know (I’m going to use the word biblically now) by its fruit. What happened next was that dozens of employees of Harvest and its satellites created blogger profiles and swamped the comment thread with assertions that I was not telling the truth. (So no, I wasn’t surprised when Ken Silva <a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/24/theres-more-to-the-resignation-of-james-macdonald-from-gospel-coalition/">revealed</a> that HBC sends out talking-points memos!) In the midst of the ensuing firestorm, the question was never answered. What exactly are the parameters of “fruitfulness”?</p>
<p>In the absence of any attempt to define terms, I was left to speculate that “fruitful” was being used to describe anyone with an astonishingly huge church. This conclusion was not reached in a vacuum; the guest-list at the Elephant Room II seemed to bear it out. “Fruit” appeared to mean “followers.” If you are a massive, multi-site ministerial mogul, you’re quite “fruitful.”</p>
<p>Now that the conference has played out we may ask two questions.</p>
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<p>First, was this understanding of what James MacDonald means by “fruitful” born out in the Elephant Room? And second, how far does this misconception go toward explaining the entire debacle? The <a href="http://crbcviews.blogspot.com/2012/01/elephant-room-ii-session-4-transcript.html">transcript</a> of the event supplies us with the answers to both questions.</p>
<p>Let’s begin here:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Driscoll:</strong> [to Jakes] I want to say a couple of things. Thank you for joining us. You don’t have to be there. <em>You were on the cover of Time magazine.</em> You have options of where you go.</p>
<p><strong>MacDonald:</strong> This isn’t your biggest gig ever?</p>
<p><strong>Driscoll:</strong> It takes a lot of courage and humility to put yourself in an unscripted situation and to be outside of your normal crowd. <em>And the fact you showed up to dinner last night, I was shocked. I was like, “T.D. Jakes is coming for dinner?”</em> I loved you. I enjoyed you. I really appreciated hearing the story of your context, your family. And I walked away going, “I appreciate meeting and knowing and enjoying that man.” Thank you for being gracious; thank you for being courageous; thank you for being humble. [emphasis added]</p></blockquote>
<p>Now the end of that may have been laying it on a bit thick, but to some degree I understand what Driscoll and MacDonald were saying. Jakes didn’t have to come. However, in light of what MacDonald <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2012/01/25/elephant-room-2-live-blog-session-7/">said</a>later in the day &#8211; words that are suggestive, at least, of the possibility that his primary means of testing orthodoxy is to hang out with big-name preachers and see whether he enjoys their company &#8211; given that, it was a little disconcerting all the same. But there was more:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Just, that was crazy! I’ve just got to say, I am so weary of people thinking they know &#8211; they don’t know! I think you honor us and you humble us, <em>a man of your stature and commitment to the gospel and fruitfulness</em> would come and sit with us in this room, let you and me ask him what he believes? Like he’s getting baptized or something? <em>We got a one-A battery [indicates self], a two-A battery [indicates Driscoll] and a whole…</em></p>
<p><strong>Driscoll:</strong> A nuclear power plant?</p>
<p><strong>MacDonald:</strong> Thank you. I just want to say this, I think you’ve honored us, and you’ve shown incredible humility, and I want to be in the world where I believe that Jesus Christ stands. [emphasis added]</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the money quote. Much attention has been paid to it, and for good reason. MacDonald’s enthusiasm here follows Jakes assertion of anemic, minimalist theological bullet-points which in no way revised his previous statements. What interests me, though, is the <em>reason</em> why MacDonald is so excited.</p>
<p>He mentions three things about Jakes here. First, his “stature.” That’s right, Jakes was on the cover of Time, and MacDonald is thrilled to have him there &#8211; as though somehow his stature in the eyes of the world renders him exempt from theological questioning. Second, his “commitment to the gospel.” This is an intriguing category to bring up, given that absolutely no attention was paid to the preaching of T.D. Jakes during the Elephant Room. One wonders exactly how Jakes’ pleas for seed offerings demonstrate “commitment to the gospel.” But then, finally, MacDonald returns to one of his favorite words: “fruitfulness.”</p>
<p>The meaning of this is at last fleshed out for us. When it comes to fruitfulness, Macdonald and Driscoll are to Jakes as a couple of small batteries are to a nuclear power plant. I think I’m on solid ground when I speculate that MacDonald isn’t presuming to talk about fruits of holiness or fruits of repentance here. There are only two things he can reasonably be assumed to mean: personal income or size of ministry &#8211; and we should charitably assume he means the latter. In fact, his summation of this session demonstrates exactly that:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d just like to reiterate the theme that you’ve talked about, the theme that you’ve talked about, and here’s a couple of things. 6000 churches in North America close their doors every year. 3500 Americans leave the church every day. I don’t mean leave the church to go across town to the other church. I mean, “I’m done with this.” Alright? Less than 20% of Americans attend church regularly. Only 15% of churches in the US are growing numerically. Only 15%, and only 2% of those are growing by conversion. We have a massive problem. The church of Jesus Christ in North America is hemorrhaging. It is in a freefall. We will be &#8211; <em>and some of these successful churches can cause us to be confused about the true state of things. Steven Furtick’s baptizing a lot of people; that’s not going on in a lot of places.</em> The church is hemorrhaging massively; it’s in a freefall. We need to wake up and figure out that the constant negative, destructive rhetoric is hurting the church; it’s not helping it. [emphasis added]</p></blockquote>
<p>So there you have it. Everyone needs to shut up about needless stuff like doctrinal precision because the church is shrinking. Thank goodness for <em>fruitful</em> guys like Steven Furtick! It’s all about the numbers. Only those with massive ministries can possibly be big enough and fruitful enough to admonish the likes of MacDonald and his co-host, Mark Driscoll. Think I&#8217;m being unfair? Consider what Driscoll <a href="http://pastormark.tv/2012/01/31/10-reflections-on-the-elephant-room">said</a>he learned from the Elephant Room:</p>
<blockquote><p>I did not grow up in an evangelical church. I was saved at 19 and planted a church at 25, which was too early, as I was not ready. The church I pastor is the only church of which I’ve ever been a member. Mars Hill has grown by 5,000 in a recent two-week time period, and we are now 15,000 people a week!</p>
<p>I say that not to brag, but to show how wonderfully complex it is to try and steward so much of God’s grace and so many people. Nothing changes until the leader changes, and I have a lot to learn. <em>While I can and do learn a lot theologically from my tribe, the truth is there are not many evangelistically fruitful churches in my tribe and there are not any churches larger than ours I can learn from. So, I have to go outside of my theological tribe to learn certain things.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Go away, little people. You’re not fruitful enough to tell me about certain things.</p>
<p>Astounding, isn’t it? But then, even more than MacDonald, Driscoll is not known for his reserve. If he thinks something absolutely outrageous, he’ll eventually come right out and say it.</p>
<p>So now we understand “fruitful” &#8211; it means you win lots of converts. Two quick observations are in order if we would evaluate this biblically. First, you can search high and low for this usage of “fruit” in Scripture. The Bible talks about <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%205:22-23&amp;version=ESV">the fruit of the Spirit</a>, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+12:11&amp;version=ESV">the fruit of righteousness</a>, and <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+3:8&amp;version=ESV">fruit in keeping with repentance</a>, but never about the fruit of enormous ecclesiastical empires.</p>
<p>Second, the Bible expressly warns us against assuming that large numbers are indicative of true fruitfulness. In <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2013:1-9&amp;version=ESV">the Parable of the Sower</a> Jesus warned that only <em>some</em> apparent converts will ever produce fruit &#8211; many will fall away at the first trial while others will be choked by worldliness. No sooner had He explained this parable than He told <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2013:24-30&amp;version=ESV">the Parable of the Weeds</a>, in which we learn that genuine fruitful Christians are not always easily distinguishable from false, hypocritical children of the world.</p>
<p>It would seem, then, that Scripture warns us to have a sober caution about large numbers. This is a warning which Driscoll and MacDonald simply ignore. MacDonald speaks of Jakes’ “commitment to the gospel” without inquiring at all into what the man actually preaches. Such questions seem to be immaterial; apparently you just don’t ask how “a nuclear power plant” produces all that energy.</p>
<p>The conclusion is clear: whatever MacDonald once was, however Driscoll presents himself &#8211; these men have become obsessed with large numbers. Having enormous congregations themselves, they will not admit any other criteria for the evaluation of ministries. They are <strong><em>not</em></strong> willing to listen to the reproof and admonition of anyone with a smaller ministry. They <em><strong>are</strong></em> willing to embrace a rank heretic and snake-oil salesmen and to cover his doctrinal nakedness with the cloak of evangelical respectability, provided only that they get to sit on stage with someone &#8211; anyone, it would appear &#8211; who has a larger church than their own.</p>
<p>So, what happened? Simply put: this elephant died from an acute case of idolatry &#8211; specifically the very modern form of idolatry which worships crowds, energy, and supposed influence. Its rotting carcass is a cautionary tale to us all: be careful not to love success more than truth.</p>
<p>That misplaced love is not only unwise; it runs headlong against all of Scripture’s warnings. It is not only uncharitable; it demonstrates a heartless disregard for the confused souls who have been misled by false teaching. It is not only distressing; it is disqualifying. These men should no longer be considered faithful ministers of the gospel. They simply cannot be trusted.</p></blockquote>
<p>The original appears complete with a comments section for you to join the discussion right <a href="http://crbcviews.blogspot.com/2012/02/pachydermal-post-mortem.html" target="_blank">here.</a></p>
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<p><a title="Permanent Link to CLEANING UP AFTER THE ELEPHANTS? JAMES MACDONALD TAKES TO THE AIRWAVES" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/08/cleaning-up-after-the-elephants-james-macdonald-takes-to-the-airwaves/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">CLEANING UP AFTER THE ELEPHANTS? JAMES MACDONALD TAKES TO THE AIRWAVES</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to T.D. JAKES HAS TIES TO “RABBI” RALPH MESSER" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/09/t-d-jakes-has-ties-to-rabbi-ralph-messer/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">T.D. JAKES HAS TIES TO “RABBI” RALPH MESSER</a></p>
<p><a title="Permanent Link to PAULA WHITE LESS THAN TRUTHFUL REGARDING “RABBI” RALPH MESSER" href="http://apprising.org/2012/02/06/paula-white-less-than-truthful-regarding-rabbi-ralph-messer/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">PAULA WHITE LESS THAN TRUTHFUL REGARDING “RABBI” RALPH MESSER</a></p>
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<p><a title="Permanent Link to ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: T.D. JAKES AND PAULA WHITE" href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/26/elephant-in-the-room-t-d-jakes-and-paula-white/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: T.D. JAKES AND PAULA WHITE</a></p>
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