“My dearly beloved, flee from idolatry!” 1 Corinthians 10:14

Romanism is a gigantic system of sacrament-worship, Mary-worship, saint-worship, image-worship, relic-worship, and priest-worship! In one word, Romanism is a huge organized idolatry!

I know how painful these things sound to many ears. To me it is no pleasure to dwell on the shortcomings of any who profess and call themselves Christians. I can say truly that I have said what I have said with pain and sorrow.

I believe that many a poor Catholic at this day is worshiping with an idolatrous worship, simply because he knows no better. He has no Bible to instruct him. He has no faithful minister to teach him. I remember all this; and I say that the Catholic eminently deserves our sympathy and compassion.

But all this must not prevent my saying that the Church of Rome is an idolatrous Church. I would not be faithful if I said less.

My own conscience would rebuke me if I did not warn men plainly that the Church of Rome is an idolatrous Church, and that if they will join her, they are “joining themselves to idols!”

That heart can hardly be right with God, which can think of the millions who are sunk in heathenism, or honor the false prophet Mahomet, or daily offer up prayers to the Virgin Mary — and not cry, “O my God, what shall the end of these things be? How long, O Lord, how long?”

Christ rightly known, Christ truly believed, and Christ heartily loved — is the true preservative against ritualism, Romanism and every form of idolatry! (Online source)

Rick Warren:

(Online source)

See also:

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

JAMES ROBISON AND RICK WARREN WORKING TO REVERSE THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION

BETH MOORE AND HER VISION OF A ROMAN CATHOLIC DENOMINATION

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Now only pretending to be Protestant as they bow before the Golden Calf of corrupt Counter Reformation Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM) as perpetrated by Southern Baptist minister Dallas Willard and his former pastor and current friend, Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster.

You’ll see a perfect example of this with Protholic Purpose Driven Pope Rick Warren and his SBC flagship Saddleback Church as evidenced e.g. in James Robison And Rick Warren Working To Reverse The Protestant Reformation and Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism Invades Evangelicalism With Rick Warren And Kay Warren Leading The Charge. Enjoy your long naps you Rip Van Winkle leaders within the apostatizing Southern Baptist Convention.

In fact just the other day in Setting Kay Warren Straight About Roman Catholic Mystic Henri Nouwen I reminded you again that Kay Warren’s especially fond of that deceased apostate. Roman Catholic mystic Henri Nouwen (1932-1996) was a leading guru of CSM, with it form of meditation in an altered state of consciousness commonly referred to by these neo-Gnostics as Contemplative/Centering Prayer (CCP). His devotion to CSM and CCP led him into the spiritually bankrupt Love Wins mythology of Rob Bell.

Well, I have news for these evangelical neo-Gnostics; if you think you’re going to practice this divination without falling into spiritual deception, think again. In the Lord I admonish you to make the time to throughly contemplate and meditate upon your possible future in 1 Kings 22:5-29 and 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12. If God grants your “true self” repentance, I’m guessing you’ll receive quite the transformation through this enlightenment.

Now with this absolute truth in mind I point you to something straight out of the principle Jesus is teaching when as our Creator He informs us — “out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks” (Matthew 12:34). And in our day we can add that our fingers also type what we are thinking about and reading. Such as the human potential gibberish tweeted by Kay Warren this morning:

(Online source)

This isn’t Christian theology; it is in line with the heretical view of sanctification of apostate Roman Catholicism, which really isn’t a surprise being that Jean Vanier himself is a stanch Roman Catholic:

Jean Vanier was born on September 10, 1928 in Geneva, Switzerland… In 1950, after much prayer and reflection on god’s call, Jean resigned from the navy and went to Paris to study philosophy at the Catholic Institute.

It was during his course of study that Jean met Father Tomas Phillipe who became his spiritual mentor and friend. (Online source)

Here’s what we do know: God didn’t call Vanier to study at a Roman Catholic Institute and Jesus did not give him an apostate Roman Catholic priest to mentor him spiritually. Let’s also get this straight: God hates the Roman Catholic Church, which has placed its own—never rescinded—anathema upon the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself. Do you seriously think the Lord merely winks at that incontrovertible fact?

You may wonder how I know Jesus hates the Church of Rome, Satan’s best front for the Kingdom of God. Simple; I asked the Lord about it and He told me:

As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed (Galatians 1:9).

Let me point out here that Jean Vanier was instrumental in creating something “called L’Arche- meaning The Ark in French-referring to Noah’s Ark.” You might find it interesting to know that the aforementioned heretic Henry Nouwen was also personally involved with L’Arche, which is the devil’s ark not God’s. Vanier bills himself on his personal website as “a man becoming human” (see 2 Timothy 3:2).

He also explains that after a mystic “retreat in Marylake, near Toronto, Canada”  it would lead:

to the foundation of the Faith and Sharing movement, which offers retreats and prayer time in North America. (Online source)

It is admirable on a human level that Vanier has spent most of his life working with people “with severe disabilities.” However, spiritually it is dead because this is an organization with a decidedly Roman Catholic direction; beginning with a pilgrimage to demonic apparitions in Lourdes:

The final day, Easter Monday, the pilgrims could not accept it was all over. So Jean suggested to them, “Continue to meet in small communities and do all that the Holy Spirit inspires you.” With Marie-Hélène Mathieu, he then created a second international organization that would live out and share his vision: Faith and Light.

The experience in Lourdes was repeated in 1975 with an international pilgrimage to Rome, where Paul VI welcomed 5000 pilgrims from Faith and Light. (Online source)

One reason that quote from Vanier tweeted by Kay Warren would catch the attention of the Warren’s is Rick’s semi-pelagian view of man, which is essentially the same as in Roman Catholic theology. In addition Jean Vanier shares his spiritual fascism as it’s Vanier’s vacuous view “that faith and community can change the world.”[1] But this only begs the questions: What faith? What community?

The truth is, faith and community not in Christ—as is the case with Vanier’s—can, at best, do very little of any lasting value. This idea of changing the world is being put in place of the Gospel of repentance and forgiveness of sins in Jesus’ Name, but it’s a tragic substitution. Unless one is regenerated by God the Holy Spirit they have no hope of ever pleasing God; no matter how noble humans may think they are:

For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you.

Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you. (Romans 8:7-11)

Rather than endorsing superstitious idolators in the Roman Catholic Church, preach the Gospel to them. 

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End notes:

[1] http://bit.ly/vHxUC5, accessed 12/31/11.

See also:

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

SBC’S BETH MOORE MERELY PRETENDING TO BE PROTESTANT

SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION USING MORE COUNTER REFORMATION CONTEMPLATIVE SPIRITUALITY

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See also:

JAMES ROBISON AND RICK WARREN WORKING TO REVERSE THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

RICK WARREN IS TAUGHT MANTRA MEDITATION

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One of the biggest venues polluting the visible church with spurious CSM is the SBC flagship megachurch Saddleback Church of Protholic PDL Pope Rick Warren, which has become a real spiritual cesspool filled with this rank odiferous skubalon.

You can see plenty of evidence for yourself within such AM articles as Rick Warren Ministry Recommends Mantra Centering Prayer and Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism Invades Evangelicalism With Rick Warren And Kay Warren Leading The Charge and The Daniel Plan Of Rick Warren Encourages “New Age Wacko-ism”.

In fact, CSM has ushered in sinful ecumenicism as you’ll see in James Robison And Rick Warren Working To Reverse The Protestant Reformation. Without a doubt one of the leading gurus of CSM, with it form of meditation in an altered state of consciousness commonly referred to by these neo-Gnostics as Contemplative/Centering Prayer (CCP), was Roman Catholic mystic Henri Nouwen (1932-1996).

Well, wouldn’t you know it earlier today Kay Warren tweeted:

(Online source)

Sounds very pious, indeed. However, in the real world, Nouwen died a slave to apostate Roman Catholicism; and like all mystics eventually arrive, his ride into CCP would land him in the soteriology of universalism:

Today I personally believe that Jesus came to open the door to God’s house, all human beings can walk through that door, whether they know about Jesus or not. Today I see it as my call to help every person claim his or her way to God.[1]

Those words were not written by a Christian because it is a slap in the face of Jesus Christ. It demeans His vicarious penal substitutionary atonement and denigrates God’s Gospel. Jesus Himself told us He was the only way to God the Father. But we’re not surprised to see Kay Warren tweet mythology of mystics as on the Saddleback Church website Saddleback Family, in their Spiritual Growth Center we find a Saddleback Staff Picks section.

Under Kay Warren—Acts of Mercy we come to the below:

(Online source)

How sad that one of the books “that shaped Kay’s life” was by Roman Catholic universalist Henri Nouwen. Remind me again why, as a former Roman Catholic, I would want to follow the teaching—and practice the mysticism—whose fruit would lead Nouwen into universalism and cause him to die faithfully serving the Roman Catholic Church that has placed its—never changed—anathema upon the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself. Consider Acts 15:1-2.

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End notes:

[1] Henri Nouwen, Sabbatical Journey[New York: The Crossroad Publishing Company], 51, emphasis mine.

See also:

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

RICK WARREN TWEETS A MESSAGE TO KEN SILVA?

RICK WARREN ON MENTORS LIKE C. PETER WAGNER

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First of all, I’m telling you again that with every passing day nafarious Word Faith heretics like modalist T.D. Jakes continue slithering closer to full-on mainstream acceptance; take for example Megachurch Pastors Joel Osteen And T.D. Jakes Unite And Why You Should Care.

The second area where Satan’s deceitful spirits are penetrating the church visible with their teachings of demons concerns apostate Roman Catholicism. You will receive a vivid picture in high definition in Pathetic Protholics Like James Robison Are Reversing The Reformation. In that earlier article I included the video below, which is the opening segment of James Robison’s Thursday, December 1 Life Today TV program.

As you’ll see, James and Betty Robison’s guest is “Father” Jonathan Morris, who is a Parochial Vicar at an historic Roman Catholic church called St. Patrick’s Old Cathedral in New York. In addition, Morris is also a news analyst for the FOX News Channel and author of God Wants You Happy: From Self-Help to God’s Help (GWYH). Below you’ll hear the Robisons rave, not only about GWYH, but also about Morris himself.

Since it’s not the point of this particular piece, as it concerns Jonathan Morris, here I’m only going to remind you that this is a well-informed practicing Roman Catholic priest. In other words, we’re not dealing with an individual Roman Catholic who may not realize their church has long ag0 condemned the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself. That’s the primary reason that Jesus raised up the Protestant Reformation. Yes, God did so.

Pastors and leaders need to know that this pouty postmodern (all about how I feel) time of timid tolerance was the perfect vacuum into which Satan could inject his infestation of divination in corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism under the guise of so-called Spiritual Formation. It’s not merely a coincidence the teachings of demons that comprise the mythology of spurious CSM came from the monastic orders of Rome.

Like poisonous spores CSM flowered throughout the Roman Catholic Church and so infected its theology over the centuries that it eventually placed its—never changed—anathema upon the Lord’s glorious Gospel of salvation by God’s grace alone (sola Deo gloria), through faith alone (sola fide), in the finished work on the Cross (no need for the Mass) of Christ alone (solus Christus). The solas of the Reformation defend the Gospel.

Yet the pretending to be Protestant James Robison lavishes the following praise upon the apostate (at best) Roman Catholic priest Jonathan Morris:

When you open your mouth, that what you say is so consistent with the Word of God, with the heart of God, with the spirit of God—and the spirit of Christ—that I marvel.

And I—I’ve often said, “I wish most Protestant preachers had the sensitivity, and discernment, and gift to communicate that you have…[as a] wonderful man of God. (from transcript following below)

Well, it’s crystal clear that the spiritually obtuse Robison hasn’t much discernment himself, that’s for sure. Turning now to my personal copy of Morris’ book GWYH, you’ll see below that Robison’s not the only person of note praising Morris’ mythology (cf. 2 Timothy 4:3-4). On the front cover of GWYH we see:

Here we have a faithful Mormon praising a Roman Catholic priest by spouting classic mystic-speak about the myth mystics muse regarding some supposed “true self,” which they dream is a “spark of the divine” within all of mankind; Christian or not. As I recently showed you in Thomas Merton And The Gospel Coalition Blog the mystic monk Merton lays this mythology out plainly below:

At the center of our being is a point of nothingness which is untouched by sin and by illusion, a point of pure truth, a point or spark which belongs entirely to God,…[1]

Well, James Robnison and the Mormon Glenn Beck aren’t the only ones heartily praising the devout Roman Catholic priest Jonathan Morris. Take a look at what Rick Warren, arguably one of the most influential pastors in the Southern Baptist Convention, says on the back cover of his good friend’s GWYH:

This reversal of the Reformation and the acceptance of the Roman Catholic Church as a Christian denomination, albeit with the caveat of one with which they supposedly have “significant differences” with, is now the typical evangelical position concerning the RCC; especially so in its younger sectors. This is why my friend Sarah Leslie of Herescope and I coined the term Protholic; someone not really Protestant, but not quite Roman Catholic…yet.

Now, as far as Rick Warren is concerned, you might remember a couple of years ago that the ever-ebullient PDL Pope posted this Bull:

Mother Teresa once said, “Holy living consists in doing God’s work with a smile.”… The last thing many believers need is to go to another Bible study.

They already know far more than they are putting into practice. What they need are serving experiences in which they can exercise their spiritual muscles. (Online source)

Proving yet again that the only thing Rick Warren has in common with the Protestant Reformers is a sinful nature just like the rest of us. There’s no evidence whatsoever that the universalist mystic Mother Teresa was even a regenerated Christian; and Warren’s Bible-twisting is legendary. Like I said before, the spread of the delusions of CSM—which are quite literally everywhere now within evangelicalism—is working to, once and for all, completely reverse the Reformation.

In closing this, for now, I remind you again that 1) the Protestant Reformation was first and foremost a battle about the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself, and 2) it matters not one whit what an individual Roman Catholic may believe about the Church of Rome. The fact is, all the canons and anathemas from the Council of Trent re. the Gospel, as well as its antibiblical sacramental system remain. For your see, by pronouncing her dogma infallible, Rome cannot change.

Of course we should love Roman Catholics; but the faithful are in need of the genuine Gospel of Jesus Christ, and I’m forever grateful Deron loved me enough when I was one of them to preach it to me. So, in the Lord, today I exhort you to join me—as well as others like me—and come into conflict with compromisers like James Robison and Rick Warren. The truth is, they need to be admonished to repent of their double-mindedness concerning apostate Roman Catholicism.

TRANSCRIPT:

James Robison: (to studio audience) We’re so glad to see you. (to camera) and we’re glad to see you. Welcome to Life Today, I’m James Robison. Betty and I are thrilled to have a Catholic priest, Father Jonathan Morris. Now let me just tell you something: Here’s a book that he’s written, God Wants You Happy and—and this uh, Catholic priest knows the source of happiness is joy; and that joy comes from a relationship with the Lord Jesus, and—and I’m telling you, this man is a blessing. I want you to welcome Father Jonathan Morris to Life Today. Would you give him a welcome?

Jonathan Morris: Thank you very much.

Robison: (shakes Morris’ hand) I’m glad to see you. Now, I—I’ve told you (pauses)

Morris: (reaches over to shake Betty Robison’s hand)

Robison: I’ve told you personally, ah, and on more than one occasion I have said—wh, “I watch you on—on FOX; and you’ll come on many of the different programs—you’re on FOX and Friends a lot in the morning. They’ll have you on often times during special uh—holidays, or, or let’s say “Christian” seasons whether it’s Christmas or Easter; and then they’ll ask you questions at various times of the year when there’s some question that comes up of a theological nature, Biblical nature, or spiritual nature—in their opinion—and sometimes they don’t really know the spiritual from the secular, but they’ll—they think they do.

Morris: They try. They do their best.

Robison: Whenever you’re on—and I’m just tell[ing] you this straight on as an evangelical—as a Protestant, every time you talk—every time I see you, I see Jesus.

Morris: Mm. Thank you.

Robison: When you open your mouth, that what you say is so consistent with the Word of God, with the heart of God, with the spirit of God—and the spirit of Christ—that I marvel. And I—I’ve often said, “I wish most Protestant preachers had the sensitivity, and discernment, and gift to communicate that you have. (quickly turns to audience) Don’t you agree that you see Jesus in this (applause)—wonderful man of God?

Morris: (to audience) Thank you very much.

Betty Robison: That’s what I—I’m appreciating; every time I’ve seen—seen you on FOX—is because there’s that—there’s that calmness and a peace that—and a sureness too—of where your beliefs come from an—and it’s just evident that God is first.

Morris: Can I say something to you all? It takes a lot of courage quite honestly—(unintelligible)—for a Protestant, evangelical, Bapti—I don’t know what you call yourself James—(laughter) to have a Catholic priest on. And I know that you do it not because you believe every, single theological thing that I believe—and we would probably have some dis—disagreements on things, but you said it—it’s about the person of Jesus Christ. And if you can have the courage, James, to have a Catholic priest to talk about things that we care about, I can say, “Let me tell you, I’ve accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior.” You don’t hear many Catholics say it because we don’t know how to say it; we’re not used to saying it. We say, “Well I was baptized; and like, I can’t remember it, you know?” But you know what?

So much—we have so much in common, but we have one person in common and that is Jesus Christ and we have to work together and we have to have courage to work together no matter what anyone says. “Father Jonathan, what are you doing going on that “Life thing Today” we’ve got a quote from James Robison 1975 (audience laughs) you know—he didn’t like those Catholics too much.”

Robison: Oh God forgive me! (audience laughs) I’ve got public confessional.

Morris: But I think we all know right now that the world’s problems today are so much bigger than our differences and we have to have courage not because we’re perfect, but because we have a God who’s perfect and who loves us, and has a plan for us and that’s why we’re here today.

Robison: Absolutely. And I’ve told—I’ve told this to him. I—I’ve chewed Billy Graham out for having Catholics in all of his meetings (audience laughta). I’ve even chewed him out for having Pentecostals and charismatics. You talk about Baptist buddy—I was Baptist bought, bred, and born.

Morris: I’m glad I’m over here.

Robison: Scary, scary, scary—I think I used to scare God. (audience laughs) I used to tell people I—I—I put so much fear of hell in them nobody wanted to go—I just scared the hell out of them. It’s just—you know, here’s the thing God has—Billy Graham is the one that—he asked me, “Do you know these people you’re talking about and telling me to stay away from them?” And, I didn’t. And I—and I’ve said this—if you watch me you’ve heard me say this many times, we don’t know Him (pointing heavenward) as well as we should because we refuse to know them. And as a result of us not knowing one another and even being an answer to the prayer of Jesus that we be one, we’ve not learned as well as we should. and—and—Father, listen I—I’ve developed such wonderful relationships I’ve got to be honest with you, if…if Catholics, evangelicals, Protestants, if we would just come together on common ground.

Morris: Mm hmm.

Robison: You talk about a city set on a hill that cannot be hid. You talk about a city set on a hill that could light up the way the world should walk and reveal the way not to walk as well as to walk, I think it’s going to happen. I want you to tell me.—what—what do you want people to hear when you think about God Wants You Happy because I know you know it’s beyond frivolity—

Morris: Yes.

Robison: It’s not triteness, it’s not trivial, it’s not “hip hip hooray” there’s some depth here, that’s what you communicate. What do you want people to hear?

Morris: Even if the book is yellow and a smiley face looking (audience laughter) you know it’s…the subtitle of this book is, From Self Help to God’s Help. And there’s a self-help industry out there that has a lot of—I would say—pearls of wisdom, but unfortunately this industry has cut itself off, has divorced itself from the origin of true happiness.

Robison: Mm hmm.

Morris: And so yes, we can help ourselves, but we can only get so far and then the grace of God has to intervene. And what I, you know…on FOX News, on other secular…uh media venues, I…I look at mostly ethical issues as you mentioned James, right? Social issues, political issues that have meaning for our lives as families and as individuals and…and what I try to do is help people take (as we were talking at dinner tonight) baby steps…

Robison: Mm.

Morris: Right? Baby steps to understanding truth and goodness and beauty but, there’s more to it than taking baby steps…there’s something called walking and there’s something called running in the presence of God. And what I try to do in this book is to help people to go through…specifically through the theological virtues of faith, hope and love and begin to live in the presence of God through living faith, through living hope, through living love. And, God wants that for us and He wants us to be happy because He wants us to flourish at every single level of our existence; suffering included (of course), but flourishing with that spiritual joy that you talked about, James.

Robison: Well, you exemplify it. I mean, you really do and I’m not…I have no reason to just try to be patronizing or just say well, okay this is the kindness of the Evangelical Protestant to the Catholic

Morris: (laughs)

Robison: I…I am telling you that…that I believe that…that I’m going to get to see and be a part of Jesus’ prayer for us to have a oneness with the Father and to see a perfected…perfectedness and perfection coming from a supernatural unity and the world will know that we’re His disciples because of our love that I…I think that I’m going to get to see that. And…and…and just knowing you the little exchanges that you and I’ve had – really in the last weeks – have been quite remarkable and…and…and I…I’m thankful. Now, you…you’ve said in our conversations that you’ve seen some things…what you hear in my expressions that encourage you.

Morris: You know, um…I…on the plane here today, I read from cover to cover the manuscript you sent to me of your new book, Indivisible, and I’m reading it and I’m blown away. I’m saying, “You know what? Here we have (and I think you wrote it

Robison: With a Catholic..

Morris: With a Catholic.

Robison: Jay Richards.

Morris: Jay Richards…and I’m reading, you know…here we have our evangelical, well-known pastor, writing about things that I would write about. Here I am reading a Catholic who helped you, writing about evangelical things that I need to learn! And we need to help each other.

Robison: Absolutely.

Morris: And you know what, James? I think the center of this book is showing that the God given….the God given gift of faith…where’s the origin? Well, it’s God given…it’s from God, but we also have a God given gift of reason; and that gift of reason when it is well-formed, when it’s not polluted by all the junk that’s out there in the media, on the news, when we purify it…helping each other purify it, that gift of reason goes together with that gift of faith and they’re two wings upon which we can fly towards new heights. And, if we’re doing it together…

Robison: Mm hmm.

Morris: As evangelicals and Catholics; Christians, anyone of good will, I believe that our country can take steps forward and we can gain…not looking back, “Remember when back in the 60s or 40s or the NO! How about the 2020s?”

Robison: Yes!

Morris: Right?

Robison: Yes!

Morris: We can do it. And I believe there’s a…there’s a evangelical/Catholic movement that’s going on…

Robison: Yeah.

Morris: Right now. Not only two groups coming together, but Catholics who are evangelistic.

Robison: Mm hmm.

Morris: And evangelicals that are going back to traditions and finding the best of it and not being afraid of it.

Robison: Absolutely. Isn’t that…do you like hearing what you’re hearing? (Audience applause) I think, “Thank God!”

Morris: Thank you, James.

Robison: And I really believe…I…I’m excited about what I believe God is doing. I don’t…I don’t see hopelessness. You know, you’ve been on FOX where…where Glenn Beck has been and Glenn and I happen to be friends, but one of the things I keep saying to Glenn…I say, “Man, let’s have some hope.” I say, “I always have hope. I mean, you talk about doomsday. Man, you’re the doomsdayest guy sometimes I’ve ever heard (audience laughter) and I…he loves me and he listens

Morris: Yeah.

Robison: And we have great fellowship…and I’m saying, “Glenn…Glenn get your hopes up a little bit!” I…I believe the blessed hope is not just the return of the Lord, but is the hope Christ in us.

Morris: Yeah.

Robison: The hope of the manifestation of His glory, which I see on you; and I get the feeling that…you know…when we were having fellowship and…with other Evangelicals and we were eating together, it looked like you could see hope in this…this beautiful girl right here (pointing to Betty) and you could see hope in the others. Don’t you think that we have this hope that people are looking for and if they see it, they’re going to be drawn to it? I…I feel like that’s what you say when God wants you to be happy to have a life that is attractive in which Christ is lifted up…

Morris: That’s right.

Robison: Not just some dull religion.

Morris: And this is not hope that’s like, “Hey, positive thinking…optimism…hey, c’mon, wake up…get up…have some coffee (laughts) that’s not it! You know, optimism is a mere emotional state of the soul. Hope is being positive…positive thinking, positive acting. Why? Because we know that Christ has already had the victory. And so, whether I feel like (pauses) bad (audience laughter) or whether I feel great, that emotional state of the soul is less important than the deep, theological, spiritual conviction that God is on my side, that He’s with me…

Robison: Mm hmm.

Morris: And that He’s not going to abandon me; and we have to be that for one another.

Robison: That’s good preaching (audience laughter).

Morris: What do you all say here down in the south? “That that’ll preach?”

Robison: That’ll preach.

Betty Robison: I love the title of your…God Wants You Happy, but I believe God is happy when He sees His children fellowshipping together and getting along together.

Morris: ?? rejoicing in heaven, right?

Betty Robison: Amen.

James Robison: He does. I believe the angels rejoice. I believe the Father rejoices. I know Jesus who’s daily making intercession for us…I believe He has turned to His Father and says, “Father prepare to get an answer. We’re getting together.” I….don’t you like what you see? And don’t you know God likes for us to come together? (audience applauds) Let me…let me just ask you a serious ??? that I think is really remarkable because this just shows that religion isn’t the answer…a relationship with the Jesus you talked about right up front…the priest that was over…

Morris: Mm hmm.

Robison: Over your head…

Morris: Religious order.

Robison: Your fellowship. He failed.

Morris: Yup.

Robison: But your faith didn’t fail. Explain that to us.

Morris: I wrote about that a little bit in this book. Um…just as a basic primer…there are two types of priests: There are religious order priests – you might have heard of them…Jesuits or Franciscans and then there are parish priests or Diocesan priests. And I was part of an order that was founded in Mexico and the founder turned out to be…he was a very charismatic guy…he had turned out to be basically a big fraud. And, it wasn’t found out until sixty years after he was running this…and tremendous good people got involved and did wonderful things, and then we found out another whole aspect or many aspects of his life…of the humanity…the broken, frail humanity; and if we put our faith in any specific person…even your wife or your husband, a specific pastor, um…a boss, or a hope that I might have to have such and such a position, or money…we’re going to be, ultimately, disappointed. And, that’s a very good thing to be disappointed when we’ve placed our hope in a place that does not deserve our hope.

Robison: Yeah. Our trust.

Morris: Yes, it was hard. You know, here I’m writing this book, God Wants You Happy, and I’m going through all this stuff, you know…yeah…whatever! Right? (laughter) And, but isn’t that how God works? In the midst of our pain He’s helping us and pushing us along and uh…so yeah, it was painful, but hey, we uh…it’s good for us sometimes.

Robison: Yeah, He looked beyond our sin and gave us forgiveness and grace; and we can look beyond our pain and the failures of others and see His adequacy and His sufficiency. I…I want to encourage you to get Father Jonathan Morris’ book, God Wants You Happy, in the truest, purest sense of the word. And then whenever you see him…and I’m praying that God will open doors beyond anything he’s ever imagined…I pray this for him, and matter of fact, he’s come on this program where so many people highly visible in evangelical circles have been, I’ve never heard anyone put it any clearer, any plainer, any more precisely, any more directly pointing to Jesus than he did and I…I believe I’m watching (just what he referred to a moment ago) I’m watching something happen in the family of God that lifts us above all those barriers that have been put up, always in defense of the faith… always, but often times in the defense of the faith we destroy the demonstration of the faith and the high impact potential of the faith; and I believe God’s going to heal that. And…and…you know Father, I don’t see that as a compromise. I see we’ve been compromising over our various differences and we’ve really missed the power of the real Difference Maker

Morris: That’s right.

Robison: The Lord Jesus.

Morris: And it’s not about us or even about (gesturing to entire audience) right? It’s about us with God, right? Who’s going to help us because hey, what can we do? We’re limited human beings with a limited scope that even with the Internet and television, it’s nothing (laughter) that’s nothing compared to the suffering of individuals, the needs of families…

Robison: Absolutely.

Morris: And we can’t do it on our own, but we have to do our part and be the junior partners with the Holy Spirit to bring about a wonderful work of God.

Robison: Amen. We all say amen to that (audience applause) Here’s the book. You pray for Father Jonathan Morris, and I…I’ll just tell you here right now…you’ve got an invitation…and I don’t know how often you want to leave up in the, you know New York or in the happy, happy grounds or whatever and come down here to hot, uh Texas…you know…somebody said, “All Texas needs is a little more air conditioning and you know a little bit more water,” and somebody said, “That’s all Hell needs.” (laughter) But if you…if you want to come down, you’ve got an invitation if you’ll just let us know you’re coming this way, or you would just say, “You know what? I’ll make it a part of my schedule.” We’d love to have you come.

Morris: Well, let’s do it. Let’s play golf, too.

Robison: Let’s do that! (laughter) Shake on that. Let’s do it! Say thanks to Father Jonathan Morris (audience applause). I want to again say thanks to Father Jonathan Morris and remind you that God Wants You Happy and I just pray that all of us evangelicals, Protestants, whoever…every Catholic…every professing Christian would be the kind of witness and the kind of light that Father Jonathan Morris is. Would you say thanks to the Father?

Morris: Thank you.

Robison: Thank you. Thank all of you for watching. Thank you for your support. We love you. Thanks for loving us.

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End notes:

[1] Thomas Merton, Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander [New York: Doubleday, 1966], 158, emphasis mine.

See also:

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

BETH MOORE PRAISES BROTHER LAWRENCE AND OBSCURES THE REFORMATION

LET US NOT FORGET THE REFORMERS

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In covering the EC I’ve been showing you, as well as carefully documenting, the really awful impact these rebels against the final authority of the Word of God have had upon the church visible through their postmodern version of Progressive Christian theology—a Liberalism 2.0—often referred to as “big tent” Emergence Christianity.

One of those involved with the EC right from very early on would be Dan Kimball, author of the book The Emerging Church. You may recall that I wrote a piece concerning Kimball in February of 2010 called Pirate Christian Radio, which my friend Shawn Larowe kindly donated hours to transcribe for me and appeared in Dan Kimball On The Record.

You’ll notice some of the time in the interview Kimball chose to use to take some swipes at those of us in this line of ministry that he referred to as “watchdog discernment ministry.” Well, as evangelicalism continues it’s slide into apostasy Jesus has raised up online apologetics and discernment ministries like this one to use the Internet to warn of wolves attempting to prey upon His sheep and to supply food in proper Biblical doctrine.

Dan Kimball certainly isn’t doing so; and a large part of the problem with his so-called repentance in that Fighting for the Faith interview is that Kimball also told me over a year ago exactly what he tells Rosebrough. Has anyone seen any real indication of repentance by Dan Kimball? I know I sure haven’t; and the following tweet from him today actually indicates the opposite as far I see it:

(Online source)

The link takes us to the Speakers page for the upcoimg 2012 Яadicalis shindig put on annually by Purpose Driven Pope Rick Warren. The below tweet from the official Яadicalis Twitter account confirms that Kimball is a featured speaker for this conference at Saddleback Church along with Warren himself:

(Online source)

From the Яadicalis website we see:

(Online source)

It really shouldn’t come as much of a surprise that we now see Dan Kimball working more closely together with Rick Warren; they are merely two sides of the same man-centered Church Growth Movement coin. What does come as a bit of a surprise is why such as these waited so long to more publicly reveal their identical purpose:

“Do two walk together, unless they have agreed to meet?” (Amos 3:3)

See also:

DAN KIMBALL ON THE RECORD

RICK WARREN TWEETS A MESSAGE TO KEN SILVA?

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

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In articles like Rick Warren And Teachings Of Demons I’ve also clearly documented his sinful ecumenicism as well.

Of course that’s merely one of the fruits within apostatizing evangelicalism because of its foolish fascination with corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism.

Now I point you to the Christian Today piece Rick Warren’s church cancels Christmas service, aim to serve surrounding community where we’re informed:

In a rare move, the 20,000-member Saddleback Church in Orange County is canceling all of its worship services during the second weekend in December in order to help facilitate a huge neighborhood volunteer opportunity.

Best-selling author and pastor Rick Warren is asking members of his congregation to take at least a half day on Saturday or Sunday (Dec. 10, 11) to go “serve in the community and love your neighbor as yourself.”

In its 31-year history, the megachurch has canceled weekend services less than a handful of times, according to Warren.

Church officials are hoping to mobilize Saddleback’s base of 5,000 Bible study groups, referred to as “small groups,” to perform their own chosen acts of kindness in their neighborhoods…

Warren recently enlisted pastors Bill Hybels of Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago area, and Miles McPherson of Rock Church in San Diego, who gave weekend messages last month about evangelizing and giving service out of love to neighbors. (Online source)

On the positive side, at least this will be one weekend the Saddleback faithful would have the chance to avoid the Bible-twisting of Rick Warren and fellow man-pleasing Church Growth Movement pals like Bill Hybels.

See also:

RICK WARREN TWEETS A MESSAGE TO KEN SILVA?

RICK WARREN MINISTRY RECOMMENDS MANTRA CENTERING PRAYER

RICK WARREN ON MENTORS LIKE C. PETER WAGNER

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See also:

RICK WARREN TWEETS A MESSAGE TO KEN SILVA?

RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS

RICK WARREN MINISTRY RECOMMENDS MANTRA CENTERING PRAYER

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Earlier Rick Warren And Teachings Of Demons went online at Apprising Ministries.

Then not too long afterward Rick Warren sent out the following tweet:

(Online source)

If you haven’t seen my article, it shares a couple of the doctrines demons are perpetrating right now within largely pretending to be Protestant evangelicalism and then documents Warren’s personal sinful ecumenicism.

By the way, it’s also written:

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice. (Proverbs 12:15)

Depends upon where you stand. That noted; I hope Rick Warren knows I’m all ears. You see, I’m a former slave to apostate Roman Catholicism from which God in His mercy delivered me into His glorious Gospel.

So I’d love to understand how one of the most influential pastors in the Southern Baptist Convention, in contradistinction to the Reformation, makes his case that the Roman Catholic Church is Christian.

See also:

RICK WARREN MINISTRY RECOMMENDS MANTRA CENTERING PRAYER

DR. MICHAEL HORTON ON THE CHAMELEON-LIKE RICK WARREN

RICK WARREN ON MENTORS LIKE C. PETER WAGNER

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In Biblical terms we say of this spurious CSM — Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons (1 Timothy 4:1)

One of the teachings of demons being spread right now by deceitful spirits, which is leading people to depart from the faith is self-aggrandizement where one apparently sees themself as above criticism and regularly attacks those offering it. For example, look at this tweet from Rick Warren:

(Online source)

Well, we don’t get to choose our critics; God does (e.g. 1 Timothy 1:3-7). Another of these deceptions, which is a direct fruit of CSM, is sinful ecumenicism where the love of self (mankind) becomes more important than the Gospel of God. You may recall this classic Bull where PDL Pope Warren defiantly decreed:

I see absolutely zero reason in separating my fellowship from anybody.[1]

In the real world, which is the only one we have, Rick Warren has just set himself against the Lord’s Protestant Reformation; i.e. the Reformers were wrong to separate their fellowship from the Roman Catholic Church. Now also consider that Warren is one of the most influential pastors in the Southern Baptist Convention.

The SBC is reputed to be the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, yet nothing is said of Warren’s sinful ecumenicism and double-minded position. As further demonstration, we have the following from a 2005 report on Warren by Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

“Now I don’t agree with everything in everybody’s denomination, including my own. I don’t agree with everything that Catholics do or Pentecostals do, but what binds us together is so much stronger than what divides us,” he said.

“I really do feel that these people are brothers and sisters in God’s family. I am looking to build bridges with the Orthodox Church, looking to build bridges with the Catholic Church,…. (Online source, emphasis mine)

Nothing binds the Christian with practicing Roman Catholics because the Church of Rome long ago condemned the Gospel; in fact, this was at the very heart of the Reformation. And yet, a year earlier in a 2004 interview of Rick Warren by Modern Reformation he would tell us:

Theologically, I am a monergist and firmly hold to the five solas of the Reformation.
(Online source)

Still Dr. John Piper would later declare:

At root I think [Rick Warren] is theological and doctrinal and sound. (as cited Online source)

Before you toss this aside as some “angry blogger,” why don’t you actually make the time to read my documentation; it’s all right here for you. Actually, it gets even worse; as you’ll see below Rick Warren has quite literally helped Roman Catholics increase the size of their parishes where they preach their false gospel.

You might remember that back in 2007, e.g. in Southern Baptist Pastor Rick Warren Is Openly Promoting Apostate Roman Catholicism, I told you about a section of the PDC website devoted to Purpose Driven Catholics. Sadly, webpages and links concerning Rick Warren are very apt to suddenly vanish unexpectedly.

So let me point out that what you’ll see here below via screen capture has already been stored as hard copy on file at AM. Now as you click on that above link for PD Catholics you’ll be taken to a section, which at the top of the page, you’ll see was called Catholics; this section itself extended from Purpose Driven Denominations:

(Online source, click to enlarge)

Keep in mind here that the “helpful links” above were for people in the Purpose Driven Christian denomination called Purpose Driven Catholics; and this, yet again, is Warren professing to believe one thing and actually doing something else. God’s Word, the Bible, speaks of this as being double-minded.

You’ll also see below that on at least one occasion Rick Warren actually bestowed a healthy church award upon a Roman Catholic parish. Once online at PurposeDrivenChurch.com we found the piece 2006 CHA recipients honored at Saddleback during Purpose Driven Church conference.

Therein we were told about “the 2006 Purpose Driven Church conference” where:

Pastor Rick Warren met with the 2006 Church Health Award recipients, along with winners from previous years and regional Purpose Driven leaders, at a reception on May 15 at Saddleback Church. Pastors were given the opportunity to share their stories of integrating the Purpose Driven ® model into their churches with Pastor Rick and each other. Many of them expressed their gratitude for how the five biblical purposes helped shape their congregations into healthy churches.

This was followed by a presentation of plaques to the CHA winners and an opportunity for a photograph with Pastor Rick. Pastor Rick asked those gathered to continue to help him teach God’s purposes to churches around the world. (On file at AM)

And one of those plaques that went to “the CHA winners” along with “an opportunity for a photograph with Pastor Rick” was presented to Family of God Church of Tacloban, Philippines; its “denomination” we’re told is “Roman Catholic.” No way around it; Warren acknowledged this apostate RCC parish as a legitimate church.

If you’re tempted to think he’s changed his tune regarding Purpose Driven Catholics consider the tweet below, which ironically Warren tweeted on Reformation Day:

(Online source)

While we don’t wish to see anyone suffering, the point here is Rick Warren most clearly told you he has Roman Catholics as “PD pastors.” You need to be aware the erroneous idea that faithful, practicing, Roman Catholics are Christian brothers and sisters is rapidly spreading the deeper CSM slithers into evanjellyfish.

However, God clearly tells us:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
(Galatians 1:6-9)

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End notes:

[1] http://bit.ly/vETcpu, accessed 11/8/11.

See also:

RICK WARREN MINISTRY RECOMMENDS MANTRA CENTERING PRAYER

DR. MICHAEL HORTON ON THE CHAMELEON-LIKE RICK WARREN

RICK WARREN ON MENTORS LIKE C. PETER WAGNER

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