Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones. (Jude 8, ESV)

Such As These Are Hidden Reefs Within The Church Visible

In the Apprising Ministries piece Rick Brentlinger Of Gay Christian 101 And Ken Silva I mentioned that Rick Brentlinger of Gay Christian 101, an unrepentant practicing homosexual professing to be Christian, was kind enough to send me an unsolicited copy of his 390 page gay affirming textbook of the same name. I had also pointed that out in Not So Gay Writing On Wall Of Apostatizing Evangelicalism; and further, I said you’d best get ready for gay affirming arguments, because this issue is about to detonate within the walls of the mainstream squishy evanjellyfish community itself.

There’s very good reason why in posts like Ex-Homosexual Friend Of Apprising Ministries I’ve been warning you that there’s a very dark and threatening same-sex storm, right now, approaching hurricane force, and which is currently only slightly off the coast of your own local church. Briefly, as I said e.g. in Jay Bakker Reflects The Sad Condition Of The Visible Church, the wide, and very rapid, advance of the egregiously ecumenical Emerging Church—which is a cult of neo-liberalism now firmly within mainstream of the visible church—will come with a heavy cost.

You see in their lust for number$, for nearly a decade, pretending to be Protestant mainstream evangelical churches have used their Young Adult and Youth ministries as spiritual guinea pigs by using many materials from Emergent Church leaders. Online apologetics and discernment ministries tried to warn you the primary goal of the EC has been to attack Sola Scriptura. And it’s been very successful in doing so through spreading a corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism responsible for creating the current evangelical fad of practicing what’s merely refried mysticism-lite of apostate Roman Catholicism. 

This is the reason why God moved me to begin covering the issue of a growing acceptance within evangelicalism that the deviant and sinful lifestyle of having sexual relations with another of the same sex, i.e homosexuality, is a viable one for the regenerated Christian. And the EC is already making acceptance of this sin of sexual immorality for the Christian an hot-button issue. Tip-of-the-spear for this area of attack upon proper biblical Christianity is gay-affirming “pastor” Jay Bakker of Revolution:NYC; joining the EC elete in the upcoming Big Tent Christianity: Being and Becoming the Church.

Which brings me back to Rick Brentlinger, who in fairness actually opposes the EC, even though this is the vehicle that’s eventually going to make the sinful lifestyle he advocates acceptable for most “Christians.” The future in this area can be seen by looking at mainline denominations, who long ago gave in to the Cult of Liberalism and kicked out the proper Christian spirituality of Sola Scriptura, and are still being ripped apart by the highly divisive homosexual lobby; one by one, they’ll all fall. As I said before, mainstream evangelicalism, this is your wake-up call; prepare for the very same debates within your own halls.

Sadly, it’s going to be a huge surprise, and soon, when evanjellyfish—unity at all costs—leaders find out, the hard way, that most professing Christians don’t actually hold to Sola Scriptura at all. And so what are you then left with; doing what is right in your own eyes ala Judges 17:6. This is the backdrop upon which to view my email exchanges below with Rick Brentlinger; and please keep in mind, the only reason that you’re now going to be able to read them is because he first made the choice to bring this public by publishing my last email to him. I’m not complaining; he’s not violated any laws, I’m simply stating a fact.

Rick Brentlinger was kind enough to write and make me aware of the post, which is based upon my latest email response to him, in regard to a couple of earlier emails he’d sent to me:

Hi Ken- I get this argument all the time from anti-gay Christians. Jesus defined marriage – His definition did not include same sex marriage – therefore according to Jesus, same sex marriage is wrong.

It comes up so frequently that I’ve quoted your email to me and provided the following answer on my website at this Link. – Rick

Did Jesus define marriage as only between a man and a woman?

In So Far As It Depends On You Try And Live At Peace With Everyone

However, as I said above, this all begins a little while back. So for context, before I deal specifically with Brentlinger’s post next time, following is what led up to my writing what I did in the email, upon which, he bases his above post:

Hi Ken-

Just read your post titled: Evangelicalism Using Its Young As Spiritual Guinea Pigs, with Jeremiah 32:35:

“They built the high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.” (Jeremiah 32:35, ESV)

Did it ever occur to you to cross reference Jer 32:35 with verses like Lev 18:22 and 20: 13 and Deu 23:17-18, where the context is:

a. prohibited behavior – Lev 18:3, 24, 27, 20:7, 8, 22, 23
b. abomination – Lev 18:22, 20:13
c. Molech – Lev 18:21, 20:2, 3, 4, 5
d. cult prostitution – Deu 23:17-18

In other words, reading scripture in context, the references are not to homosexuality in general but to a particular same sex sin related to idolatry = cult prostitution and offering up one’s children to false gods.

“None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute. You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of a dog into the house of the Lord your God in payment for any vow, for both of these are an abomination to the Lord your God.” -Deu 23:17-18, ESV

Rick

I then explained to him:

Hi Rick,
 
Below you said: “In other words, reading scripture in context, the references are not to homosexuality in general but to a particular same sex sin related to idolatry = cult prostitution and offering up one’s children to false gods.” Now you’re not insinuating I’m reading Scripture out of context, are you? 

The post you reference isn’t about homosexuality though; the Scripture reference stands because the article is about the impact contemplative spirituality is having on the young they’re sacrificing to the Molech that is the Emerging Church. That last line is merely my prediction as to how evanjellyfish leaders will find out their youth are now feelings-oriented instead Bible-centered.
 
No doubt a major evangelical is going to come out and instead of their same-sex sexual immorality being considered sin, instead, the younger sector will embrace them as Christian in that lifestyle. As I have time I do hope to interact in articles with the arguments you present in your book: http://www.gaychristian101.com/Gay-Christian-101.html

Rick, it’s not a personal matter because, as far as I can see, you and I are on a friendly basis. I sincerely do not look down upon you, or anyone else who is gay or holds homosexuality is not always sinful, because I’m but a sinner saved by grace myself. I wish this wasn’t going to become a very nasty battle in the public square, but I’m afraid it is.
 
Sincerely,
 
Ken

Brentlinger then wrote back:

Hi Ken-

I understand that your post was not about homosexuality per se but you referenced Molech and abomination. Knowing your position – that any and all homosexual practice is sinful, I was merely pointing out the historical and cultural and religious context of verses you used devotionally.

We wouldn’t use Biblical passages about heterosexual rape, Genesis 34, Deu 22, Judges 19, 2 Sam 13, to formulate a doctrinal position that all heterosexual marriage is wrong.

It is just as wrong to use Biblical passages about attempted rape, Gen 19 and cult prostitution, Lev 18:22, 20:13, Deu 23:17-18, to formulate a doctrinal position that all homosexual marriage is wrong.

The only way we can arrive at that conclusion about homosexual marriage is to pull verses out of context and delude ourselves into believing they address a problem they never addressed in context.

Yes, I too believe we are on friendly terms and I appreciate your discernment ministry.

Yours for truth in context,

Rick Brentlinger

To which I responded:

Hi Rick,
 
Just so you know, I don’t use rape passages and/or cult passages to come to a conclusion biblically that same sex sexual relations are always outside the marriage covenant. I use the Words of our Creator, Jesus Christ, Himself e.g. here:
 
And Pharisees came up to Him and tested Him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that He Who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?” (Matthew 19:3-7, ESV)
 
Rick, Jesus has just defined marriage as a male [man] to a female [woman], and that’s how the men to whom He was speaking understood it. That’s always been the orthodox Jewish position as well as that of the historic orthodox Christian Church. Even John Shelby Spong admitted homosexuality cannot be defended from Scripture.
 
You are welcome to your views, but as gently as I can say it, they really don’t stand in the light of Scripture.
 
Sincerely,
 
Ken

Now you are up to speed as to why I said what I did to Rick Brentlinger, up unitl this time anyway, in my role of pastor-teacher; just as I previously did here in Adele Sakler And Ken Silva when interacting with the lesbian heading the prominent Emerging Church LGBTQ group Queermergent:

Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. (2 Timothy 2:23-26, ESV)

See also:

THE SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY IS DIFFERENT 

COUNTRY SINGER AND DEVOUT CHRISTIAN CHELY WRIGHT COMING OUT AS A LESBIAN

WHAT JAY BAKKER WISHES THE BIBLE SAID ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY 

GAY CHRISTIAN SINGER JENNIFER KNAPP OUT ON LARRY KING LIVE

BUT DO EMERGENCE CHRISTIANITY AND BRIAN MCLAREN REALLY LOVE GAY PEOPLE? 

HOMOPRESSION IS AT LEAST AS BAD AS HOMOPHOBIA 

ENCOURAGEMENT CONCERNING THE EMERGING CHURCH AND JAY BAKKER