Apprising Ministries continues with coverage of the aftermath of James MacDonald’s ecumenical ER2. You can be sure that it’s silent shockwaves have done more damage than we yet see.

Earlier AM Correspondent Erin Benziger informed us of J MacD’s new offensive in what may be becoming an obsession for him, the mainstreaming of Word Faith prosperity preacher T.D. Jakes.

It seems that now MacDonald’s attempting to make it appear as if, in private ongoing discussion he’s having with Jakes, that the long-time WF preacher is moving away from this perverted position.

As Benziger brings out in her well-researched piece Cleaning Up After the Elephants? MacDonald Takes to the Airwaves, while MacDonald was on Chris Fabry Live the other day:

Fabry brought up the oft-neglected (by MacDonald, anyway) elephant of T.D. Jakes’ prosperity gospel. In this part of the discussion, James MacDonald indicated that a private conversation had taken place (among whom, we do not know, though it is obvious that it was at least allegedly between MacDonald and Jakes).

During this conversation, says MacDonald, T.D. Jakes expressed that he would “not currently accept the designation of prosperity or Word of Faith as an accurate description of what he believes. […] As of two weeks ago [Jakes] would not accept these terms in a private conversation as an accurate description of what he believes.” (Online source)

However, that’s a red herring; from years of personal dealings with them, I can tell you that WF properity preachers don’t consider themselves such anyway. The public evidence, as you see e.g. below and in T.D. Jakes Preaching Heretical Word Faith Positive Confession, doesn’t reveal any change at all.

Not to mention T.D. Jakes May 2012 Leadership Conference To Feature Joel Osteen; there’s also T.D. Jakes Has Ties To “Rabbi” Ralph Messer, the infamous scroll-wrapping king coronating WF prosperity preacher. Then we have Elephant In The Room: T.D. Jakes And Paula White as well. This is the record.

In Pastrix Paula White, T.D. Jakes, & The Black Convertable Bentley you’ll also see WF superstar pastrix Paula White, who’s in open rebellion against the Word of God, call Jakes her “spiritual father.” Fact is, T.D. Jakes is her mentor and she learned from him things like seed-sowing prosperity mythology.

As I begin to close this, for now, I’ll give you a couple of examples of T.D. Jakes with his WF mythology. In the first clip below you hear Jakes with the classic WF misunderstanding of Matthew , in that if we believe something together God is then duly bound to answer that prayer of faith:

And as we believe together, I need you to help this ministry continue to help change the world with the love of Jesus Christ. This work must continue.

Very pious; but it isn’t the mission of the Church to change the world, we are to bring the Gospel to those who are lost and to make disciples of Jesus Christ. And who says the work of T.D. Jakes “must continue?” Looks to me like Jakes does. I can tell you that the work of T.D. Jakes is truly sowing division.

Next the announcer sets up the WF fable that goes, if you sow a seed—means give money to—into a given WF ministry then God will “bless you,” i.e. prosper you financially. Of course in Word Faith mythology, the bigger the seed, the bigger the financial windfall; this is what Jakes means when he says:

And God will bless you back.

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The following aired Jaunary 14, 2012, a couple of weeks before T.D. Jakes would be in Elephant Room 2. How what you’re about to witness can be considered “humble” is beyond me. To my eye it’s over the top grandstanding and a clear cut example of:

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

The Word Faith mythology you’ll see spewed by Jakes sure scratches the ears of those hearers, but it has no place in Christian theology. T.D. Jakes certainly is a master showman and very adept at using group psychology; however, we’re talking about church, not what appears as motivation in a self-help seminar.

Jakes begins this clip using narcigesis and allegorizing the younger son in The Parable of the Prodigal Son as being “in the hogpen of life.” With the emphasis clearly on us as human beings to come to ourselves and to get our mind’s right at 1:07 in Jakes shifts into high gear WF prosperity preaching mode.

Through years of monitoring TBN, at the beginning of each new year I’ve heard WF preachers promise what Jakes does beginning at 1:42:

Somebody, I can tell you right now that this is gonna be an amazing year for you! Cuz you already got your mind—you came out head first! You got a new thought, and a new plan, and a new vision, and a new attitude!

But we already got that same advice years ago in a catchy dance tune from soul singer Patti LaBelle:

I’m feelin’ good from my head to my shoes; Know where I’m goin’ and I know what to do,
I tidied up my point of view. I got a new attitude!

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By using vague language like astrologers and psychics do, every year these WF preachers promise the faithful this is their year as does Jakes at 2:24:

Look at you neighbor and say, “I think this is gon’ be an amazing year (audience does so)—for me.”

For you see, for some it will be a good year; and if it doesn’t turn out that way for you, well, Jakes didn’t specify who would have the amazing year. Finally, during what he refers to as “a brain dump” at 2:51 T.D. Jakes moves right into classic Word Faith positive confession.

If you don’t know, this is the warped belief that our words have creative power because God spoke the universe into existence. This false teaching holds that He made up speaking beings with the ability, with His help of course, to decree and declare what we want to see happen.

Jakes tells us there are times he does this brain dump because he has to speak and declare the stuff in his head “because I gotta get it out of me” so it can come into existence. Then he says:

I want all of you that have a vision in your head, of where you wanna go this year—touch somebody and just start speakin’ stuff—just brain dump on ‘em! “I’m, I’m, gonna get out of debt this year.” “This is my year to get my family together.”

“This is my year to ge”—brain dump; c’mon! Get it out! Get it out! Get it out! Get it out! Get it out! Get it out! Get it out! (audience doing so with applause) Speak it! Speak it! Speak it! Speak it! Speak it! Speak it! Speak it! Declare it! Get it out!

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James MacDonald would have us believe T.D. Jakes will repudiate modalism; that’s a majority of his base. And we’re now supposed to believe that Jakes will give up the rest of his Word faith base as well? I say, the real question people should be asking is: Why does MacDonald want us to believe this?

No, T.D. Jakes hasn’t changed; his show is what it is. And in fact, Jakes’ message sounds an awful lot like this one below by arch Word Faith heretic Kenneth Copeland from last year:

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See also:

T.D. JAKES PREACHING HERETICAL WORD FAITH POSITIVE CONFESSION

T.D. JAKES HAS TIES TO “RABBI” RALPH MESSER

T.D. JAKES’ SPIRITUAL DAUGHTER PAULA WHITE TEACHING WORD FAITH POSITIVE CONFESSION 6-26-2011