MEGACHURCH PASTORS JOEL OSTEEN AND T.D. JAKES UNITE AND WHY YOU SHOULD CARE
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Dec 10, 2011 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Features, Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, Word Faith
Among the issues Apprising Ministries covers is how even the heretical Word Faith movement continues heading toward acceptance within the mainstream of evangelicalism.
Unfortunately, as apostasy spreads like an Oklahoma wild fire, with timid leaders scared of their own spiritual shadows, we now find ourselves in a nauseating New Downgrade No-Controversy.
This you can see for yourself e.g. in Word Faith Heretic Cindy Trimm Receives Award From Billy Graham Evangelistic Association or Oneness Pentecostal T.D. Jakes Goes Mainstream Evangelical or Steven Furtick Bringin’ On Word Faith And The Pastrixes.
Unless you’ve been living in a cave you know that Gospel Coalition Council member James MacDonald has invited notorious blab it, grab it Word Faith modalist T.D. Jakes into his Elephant Room 2. ER’s goal is to form a new unified tribe as I just showed you in Dung Droppings From The Elephant Room: Greg Laurie.
It’s important for you to understand that the first ER served to create a strong bond with Seeker Driven, i.e. man-centered, Prophet-Pastor Steven Furtick and that helped to launch this false teacher further into the mainstream of the church visible. So we have solid reason to believe the same will happen with T.D. Jakes.
We already see it beginning as we consider the following endorsement of the heretical Jakes from James MacDonald below:
You may know that Jakes is also scheduled to preach for MacDonald’s fellow ER tribe member Steven Furtick at a conference where even MacDonald himself is set to speak at as well:
Now it’s no secret that Prophet-Pastor Furtick is also a fan of Word Faith properity preacher Joel Osteen. So this sheds much light upon When Rivalry Looks Ridiculous, a recent post where Furtick muses:
O that sounds so pious; I can almost hear the applause. But what P-P Furtick neglects to point out is that God has told us why unbelievers, as we also once were, don’t care about what it is Christians are speaking of: S-I-N. And further:
as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one”…
The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
(Romans 3:10-12; 1 Corinthians 2:14)
When’s the last time you heard any of these people-pleasers I’m discussing here preach that? Answer: Never. You want to know why; I’ll tell you. It’s because they’re afraid to; instead of trusting God to empower their preaching, they’re relying upon their own cleverness. And so they resort to the use of man’s wisdom.
To quote some pop philosophers from Canada, It’s All Been Done; as the Lord has revealed to us:
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”
Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. (1 Corinthians 1:18-21)
Since this isn’t the subject of this piece, it’s suffice to say the Bible still says — For the kingdom of God does not consist in talk but in power (1 Corinthians 4:20). In closing this, for now, note again something Steven Furtick said above and then I’ll show how close to the mainstream Word Faith heretics have become.
Furtick plays the typical SD, now called “attractional,” theme song disparaging doctrine:
We’re busy drawing battle lines within our bubble:
“Are you Calvinist or Arminian?”
“Are you missional or attractional?”
“Are you a Cessationist or a Continuationist?”
“Are you seeker sensitive or (insert opposite of seeker sensitive)”
“Are you blah blah blah or yada yada yada?” (Online source)
Is Steven Furtick really so ignorant of church history that he doesn’t know people within their Protestant “bubble” paid with their very lives so he could have in his hands a Bible from which to twist his quasi-Word Faith mythology? Does he seriously think that is merely blah, blah, blah, or yada, yada, yada?
How about Word Faith heretics like Joel Osteen who (at best) bless, and (at worst) also believe, the warped works of Kenneth Copeland who teaches that faith is a literal substance that creates through our spoken words and that whenever we see Jesus say, “I AM,” we should as well because He was the first born again man.
Should we just ignore that blasphemy because Copeland has a big following? How about T.D. Jakes, who in addition to denying the very nature of the God he professes to serve, is also firmly in the same Word Faith camp as Osteen? Witness the further bonding of this new tribe now in Pastors of Texas Mega-churches unite.
It contains this report below from KTRK-TV ABC 13 in Houston, TX. On his November 28th F4F program The Osteen / T.D. Jakes Wolf Pack Christian apologist Chris Rosebrough said, “It sounds like they’re talking about two Heads of State.” As you watch it, I think you’ll agree:
Just a couple of quick notes. Here we see:
Jakes called Osteen, hoping to get Lakewood to host a men’s conference. A quick tour turned into an all-day session… Their new bond led Osteen to invite Jakes to preach. (Online source)
The Lord asks us the key rhetorical question — “Do two walk together, unless they have agreed to meet?” (Amos 3:3) The answer is: No, they do not. Like heretic attracts like heresies. What’s a sad indictment upon the evangelical community is they don’t see it, but the secular media does:
they have a lot in common. Both pastor mega churches, and preach to millions more on TV. And both have made millions outside of the pulpit from best-selling books and even movies. (Online source)
Indeed; and as you’ll hear master snake oil salesman T.D. Jakes himself say below, “Jesus is the product.”
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