The clip below here at Apprising Ministries from Jay Baker’s One Punk Under God podcast begins with Bakker talking with a woman about homosexuality at an outdoor cafe. Shades of Oprah and Stuart Smalley the two exchange speculations about the issue, “I’m ok; you’re ok; we’re all ok, because I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like me.”

And oddly enough, although this person tells pastor Bakker that, “I feel like you can’t speak for God,” on the other hand she is quite sure that he should speak on behalf of the gay community and gay Christians.